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Letters & Polemics (CSEL) 8 part 5/7

Latin original · 39 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss · long chapter, split into parts; this part covers 8:155–8:193 (242 verses in all)

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8:155
itaque, Alypi, quamuis te totum in meis partibus uideam, tamen suscipe pro his paululum mihique responde. — Quoniam, inquit, hodie auspicato, ut aiunt, processisti, non impediam plenissimam uictoriam tuam et partes illas iam securius, quo abs te imponuntur, temptabo suscipere, si tamen hoc, quod interrogationibus te acturum esse significas, in orationem perpetuam, si tibi commodum est, malis conuertere, ne uere ut pertinax aduersarius, quod a tua humanitate longissimum est, minutis illis telis abs te iam captiuus excrucier. Atque ego, cum et illos hoc expectare animaduerterem. quasi aliud ingressus exordium:
And so, Alypius, although I see you wholly on my side, nevertheless take up the case for them a little and answer me. — 'Since today,' he said, 'you have set out, as they say, under good auspices, I will not hinder your fullest victory, and I will now more securely attempt to take up those parts which are imposed on me by you — provided, however, that this which you signify you will do by questioning, you would rather, if it is convenient to you, turn into a continuous oration, lest, truly like an obstinate adversary — which is very far from your kindness — I, already your captive, be tormented by those tiny darts.' And I, when I noticed that they too were expecting this, as though entering upon another opening, said:
所以,阿里皮烏斯,雖然我看見你全然站在我這邊,還是請你稍稍替他們接下這案子,回答我。他說:「既然你今日如人所說,是在吉兆之下出發的,我就不阻攔你贏得最完滿的勝利,並且既然這些角色是你加給我的,我就更放心地試著接下——不過,你所表示要以提問方式進行的,若對你方便,倒不如改成連貫的論述吧,免得我這已成你俘虜的人,真像個頑固的對手(這與你的仁厚相去甚遠),還要被那些細小的箭矢折磨。」而我,見他們也期待這樣,便彷彿另起一個開場白說道:
8:156
Morem, inquam, uobis geram et, quamuis post illum laborem scholae rhetoricae in hac me leui armatura nonnihil requieturum esse praesumseram, ut interrogando ista potius agerem quam dicendo, tamen quia et paucissimi sumus, ut clamare mihi contra ualetudinem meam non sit necesse, et istum stilum causa eiusdem salutis quasi aurigam moderatoremque sermonis mei esse uolui, ne concitatius rapiar animo, quam cura corporis poscit, perpetua. ut uultis, oratione audite quid sentiam. sed primo illud uideamus quale sit, unde amatores Academicorum gloriari nimium solent.
'I will comply with you,' I said; 'and although after that labor of the rhetorical school I had presumed that in this light armor I would rest somewhat — so as to conduct these matters by questioning rather than by speaking — nevertheless, both because we are very few, so that I need not raise my voice against my health, and because I wished this pen, for the sake of that same well-being, to be as it were the charioteer and moderator of my discourse, lest I be swept along by my mind more violently than care for the body demands, hear in continuous oration, as you wish, what I think. But first let us consider of what sort that is from which the lovers of the Academics are wont to boast too much.'
我說:「我就依你們吧。雖然在經歷過修辭學堂的那番勞苦之後,我原以為在這輕便的裝備裡我能稍事歇息——以致寧可用提問而非講述來處理這些事——然而,一則因為我們人數極少,我不必為顧惜健康而提高嗓門;二則因為我為了同樣的健康之故,願這支筆彷彿作我言談的御者與節制者,免得我被心思沖得比顧惜身體所容許的更急促——那麼就照你們所願,在連貫的論述中聽我怎麼想吧。但我們先來看看那件事是何等性質,就是學園派的愛好者慣於過分自誇的那件事。」
8:157
nam est in libris Ciceronis, quos in huius causae patrocinium scripsit, locus quidam, ut mihi uidetur, mira urbanitate conditus, ut nonnullis autem, etiam firmitate roboratus. difficile est prorsus, ut quemquam non moueat quod ibi dictum est. Academico sapienti ab omnibus ceterarum sectarum m, qui sibi sapientes uidentur, secundas partes dari, cum primas -sibi quemque uindicare necesse sit. ex quo posse probabiliter confici eum recte primum esse iudicio suo, qui omnium ceterorum iudicio sit secundus. Facenim uerbi causa Stoicum adesse sapientem; nam contra eos potissimum Academicorum exarsit ingenium.
For there is in the books of Cicero, which he wrote in patronage of this cause, a certain passage — seasoned, as it seems to me, with wondrous wit, but, as to some, even fortified with force. It is altogether difficult that it should not move anyone, what is there said: that to the Academic wise man second place is granted by all of the other sects who think themselves wise, since each must necessarily claim first place for himself. From which it can be probably concluded that he is by his own judgment rightly first who is second in the judgment of all the rest. For let there be present, for the sake of argument, a Stoic wise man; for it was against them chiefly that the genius of the Academics blazed forth.
因為在西塞羅為此立場所寫的那些書中,有某一段落——在我看來是以奇妙的機智調製而成,但在某些人看來甚至是以有力的論據加固的。這段話幾乎難以不打動任何人,那裡說:其他一切自以為有智慧的宗派,都把第二位讓給學園派的智者,因為每一派都必然要為自己爭第一位。由此可以合理推得:那在所有其他人判斷中位居第二的人,按他自己的判斷正是第一。因為姑且假設有一位斯多亞派的智者在場;因為學園派的才智主要正是針對他們而發的。
8:158
ergo Zeno uel Chrysippus si interrogetur, qui sit sapiens, respondebit eum esse, quem ipse descripserit. contra Epicurus uel quis alius aduersariorum negabit suumque potius peritissimum uoluptatum aucupem sapientem esse contendet. inde ad iurgium. clamat Zeno et tota illa porticus tumultuatur hominem natum ad nihil esse aliud quam honestatem; ipsam suo splendore in se animos ducere nullo prorsus commodo extrinsecus posito et quasi lenocinante mercede, uoluptatemque illam Epicuri solis inter se pecoribus esse communem, in quorum societatem et hominem et sapientem trudere nefas esse.
Therefore, if Zeno or Chrysippus be asked who is the wise man, he will answer that it is the one whom he himself has described. On the contrary, Epicurus or some other of the adversaries will deny it, and will contend rather that his own most expert fowler of pleasures is the wise man. Thence to the quarrel. Zeno shouts and that whole Porch is in an uproar, that man is born for nothing other than honorableness; that this by its own splendor draws minds to itself, with no advantage whatever placed on the outside and no pandering wage, as it were; and that that pleasure of Epicurus is shared among beasts alone, into whose society it is impious to thrust both man and the wise man.
因此,若問芝諾或克律西波斯誰是智者,他必答說:智者就是他自己所描繪的那位。反之,伊比鳩魯或別的對手則會否認,反倒主張說:他那最精於捕捉快樂的人才是智者。於是爭吵便起。芝諾高聲呼喊,整個柱廊都騷動起來,說:人生來別無他事,只為德行的高尚;這德行憑自身的光輝把人心吸向自己,全不需在外置放任何好處,也不需彷彿以獻媚的酬勞為餌;而伊比鳩魯所說的那快樂,唯獨為野獸所共有,把人、把智者硬塞進牠們的群類,實屬褻瀆。
8:159
contra ille conuocata de hortulis in auxilium quasi Liber turba temulentorum, quaerentium tamen, quem i ncomtis ungui bus bacchantes asperoque ore discerpant, uoluptatis nomen, suauitatem, quietem teste populo exaggerans instat acriter. ut nisi ea beatus nemo esse posse uideatur. in quorum rixam si Academicus incurrerit, utrosque audiet trahentes se ad suas partes, sed si in illos aut in istos concesserit, ab eis, quos deseret, insanus imperitus temerariusque clamabitur. itaque cum et hac et illac aurem diligenter admouerit, interrogatus, quid ei uideatur, dubitare se dicet. roga nunc Stoicum. qui sit melior.
On the other side, that one — having summoned to his aid from his little gardens a crowd of drunkards, as though a band of Bacchus, yet seeking someone whom, raving with unkempt nails and rough mouth, they might tear to pieces — presses on fiercely, exalting, with the people as witness, the name of pleasure, its sweetness, its repose, so that without these no one seems able to be happy. If the Academic runs into their brawl, he will hear both sides dragging him to their own parts; but if he goes over to these or to those, by those whom he deserts he will be cried out as mad, ignorant, and rash. And so, when he has diligently applied his ear this way and that, being asked what seems to him, he will say that he doubts. Now ask the Stoic which is the better man:
另一邊,那一位——從他的小花園裡召來一群醉漢作援兵,彷彿酒神的隊伍,卻又在尋找一個對象,好讓他們指甲蓬亂、口舌粗野地狂亂撕扯——猛力進逼,以百姓為證,極力誇讚快樂之名、其甘美、其安逸,以致離了這些,似乎無人能得幸福。學園派若捲入他們的爭鬧,就會聽見雙方都把他往自己那邊拉;但他若倒向這邊或那邊,被他離棄的一方就會斥他為瘋狂、無知、鹵莽。於是,當他仔細地把耳朵傾向這邊那邊之後,被問到他以為如何時,他便說自己在懷疑。如今且問斯多亞派:哪一個人更好——
8:160
Epicurusn e, qui delirare illum clamat, an Academicus, qui sibi adhuc de re tanta deliberandum esse pronuntiat: nemo dubitat Academicum praelatum iri. rursus te ad illum conuerte et quaere, quem magis amet, Zenonem, a quo bestia nominatur, an Arcesilan, aquo audit: \'tu fortasse uerum dicis, sed requiram diligentius\': nonne apertum est totam illam porticum insanam, Academicos autem prae illis modestos cautosque homines uideri Epicuro?
Epicurus, who cries out that he is raving, or the Academic, who declares that on so great a matter he must still deliberate? No one doubts that the Academic will be preferred. Again, turn to that one and ask whom he loves more: Zeno, by whom he is called a beast, or Arcesilas, from whom he hears: 'You perhaps speak the truth, but I will inquire more diligently.' Is it not plain that that whole Porch seems mad to Epicurus, but the Academics, in comparison with them, seem modest and cautious men?
是那斥他為瘋狂的伊比鳩魯,還是那宣稱對如此重大之事仍須斟酌的學園派?沒有人懷疑學園派必被推崇。再轉向那一位,問他更愛哪一個:是那稱他為野獸的芝諾,還是那對他說「你也許說得對,但我要更仔細地探究」的阿爾克西勞斯?豈不明顯,在伊比鳩魯看來,整個柱廊都是瘋狂的,而學園派與他們相比,卻顯得是謙和謹慎之人?
8:161
ita peraeque prope de omnibus sectis copiosissime Cicero iucundissimum legentibus quasi spectaculum praebet uelut ostendens nullum illorum esse, qui non, cum sibi primas partes dederit, quod necesse est, secundas ei dicat dare, quem non repugnare sed dubitare conspexerit. in quo ego nihil aduersabor nec eis ullam auferam gloriam. Uideatur sane quibuslibet Cicero hic non iocatus sed inania et uentosa quaedam — quod ab ipsorum Graeculorum leuitate abhorreret — sequi et colligere uoluisse. quid enim me impedit. quin, si huic uanitati resistere uelim, facile ostendam, quanto minus malum sit indoctum esse quam indocilem?
Thus, quite evenly, concerning almost all the sects, Cicero most abundantly offers, as it were, a most delightful spectacle to his readers, showing as it were that there is none of them who, when he has given first place to himself — which is necessary — does not say that he gives second place to the one whom he has beheld not fighting back but doubting. In this I will offer no opposition, nor will I take away from them any glory. Let it indeed seem to whomever one pleases that this Cicero was not jesting, but wished to pursue and gather certain empty and windy things — which would be repugnant to the very frivolity of those little Greeks. For what hinders me, if I should wish to resist this vanity, from easily showing how much less an evil it is to be unlearned than to be unteachable?
如此,西塞羅相當均衡地論及幾乎一切宗派,極其豐富地向讀者呈上彷彿一場最悅人的戲劇,彷彿在顯明:他們中間沒有一個人,當他把第一位給了自己(這是必然的)之後,不把第二位給那被他看見不還手、卻在懷疑的人。在這一點上我不會加以反對,也不會奪去他們任何榮耀。誰若願意,儘可認為這位西塞羅並非在戲謔,而是想追逐並蒐羅某些空洞浮泛之物——這倒與那些希臘小子的輕浮相牴牾。因為,若我願意抵擋這種虛妄,有什麼能攔阻我輕易指出:無學問比不受教乃是小得多的禍害呢?
8:162
unde fit, ut, cum se ille Academicus iactanticulus quasi discipulum singulis dederit nemoque illi quod se scire putat persuadere potuerit, magna illorum postea consensione rideatur. iam enim quisque alium quemlibet aduersariorum suorum nihil didicisse, hunc uero nihil posse discere iudicabit. ex quo deinceps de omnium scholis non ferulis, quod esset deformius quam molestius. sed illorum palliatorum clauis et fustibus proicietur. non enim magnum negotium erit contra communem pestem uelut Herculea quaedam postulare auxilia Cynicorum.
Whence it comes about that, when that boastful little Academic has given himself as a disciple, as it were, to each one, and no one has been able to persuade him of what he thinks he knows, he is afterwards laughed at by the great consensus of them. For now each will judge that any other of his adversaries has learned nothing, but that this one can learn nothing. From which, thereupon, he will be thrown out from the schools of all — not with rods, which would be more disgraceful than troublesome, but with the keys and cudgels of those cloaked men. For it will be no great business, against the common pest, to demand, as it were, certain Herculean aids from the Cynics.
由此便發生這樣的事:當那自誇的學園派小子彷彿把自己作學生獻給了每一位,卻無人能使他信服他自以為知道的事,他事後就被他們一致地嘲笑。因為如今各派都會判定:他任何一個對手雖一無所學,這一位卻是全然學不了。因此他隨即就要被逐出眾人的學堂——不是用戒尺(那與其說是麻煩,不如說是恥辱),而是用那些披斗篷之人的鎖鑰與棍棒。因為對付這公共的瘟疫,向犬儒派彷彿求取某種赫拉克勒斯式的援助,並非什麼難事。
8:163
si autem ista uilissima gloria cum his certare libeat, quod philosophanti mihi iam quidem sed nondum sapienti faciliore uenia concedendum est, quid habebunt, quod possint refellere? ecce enim faciamus me atque Academicum in illas lites philosophorum inruisse; omnes prorsus assint, exponant breuiter pro tempore sententias suas. quaeratur de Carneade, quid censeat. dubitare se dicet. itaque illum singuli praeferent ceteris, ergo omnes omnibus, magna nimirum atque altissima gloria. quis istum nolit imitari? et ego itaque interrogatus idem respondebo; par erit laus. ea igitur gloria gaudet sapiens, in qua illi stultus aequatur. quid, si eum etiam facile superat? nihilne agit pudor?
But if it should please us to contend with these for that most worthless glory — which must be granted with easier pardon to me who am already indeed philosophizing but not yet wise — what will they have that they can refute? For behold, let us suppose that I and an Academic have rushed into those quarrels of the philosophers; let all be present without exception, let them briefly set forth their opinions as time permits. Let inquiry be made of Carneades what he thinks. He will say that he doubts. And so each will prefer him to the rest — therefore all to all — a great and truly lofty glory, no doubt. Who would not wish to imitate him? And so I too, when asked, will answer the same; the praise will be equal. In that glory, then, the wise man rejoices, in which the fool is made his equal. What if he even easily surpasses him? Does shame accomplish nothing?
但若我們樂於為那最不值錢的榮耀而與他們爭勝——這對我這已在探哲卻尚未成智者的人,該以更寬容的赦免來容許——他們還能有什麼可以駁倒的呢?因為請看,讓我們假設我和一個學園派衝進了哲學家的那些爭端;讓眾人無一例外都在場,讓他們按時機簡短陳明各自的主張。且問卡爾內阿德斯他以為如何。他必說自己在懷疑。於是各人都把他推崇於其餘之上——因此人人都在人人之上——這無疑是何等偉大、何等崇高的榮耀。誰不願效法他呢?所以我被問到時也答同樣的話;讚譽將是相等的。那麼,智者所樂的那榮耀,正是愚人與他被同等看待的那榮耀。倘若愚人甚至輕易勝過他呢?羞恥竟一無作用麼?
8:164
nam istum Academicum iam de iudicio discedentem tenebo; quippe auidior huius modi uictoriae stultitia est. ergo eo retento prodam iudicibus quod ignorant et dicam: ego, uiri optimi, hoc cum isto commune habeo, quod dubitat, quis uestrum uerum sequatur. sed habemus etiam proprias sententias, de quibus peto iudicetis. nam mihi incertum est quidem, quamuis audierim decreta uestra, ubi sit uerum, sed ideo, quod qui sit in nobis sapiens ignoro. iste autem etiam ipsum sapientem negat aliquid scire. ne ipsam quidem unde sapiens dicitur sapientiam. quis non uideat, palma illa cuius sit? nam si hoc aduersarius meus dixerit, uincam gloria;
For I will hold that Academic as he is already withdrawing from the judgment; for folly is greedier of this kind of victory. Therefore, holding him back, I will betray to the judges what they do not know, and I will say: I, most excellent men, have this in common with him — that he doubts which of you follows the truth. But we have also our own opinions, on which I ask you to judge. For it is indeed uncertain to me, although I have heard your decrees, where the truth is — but for this reason: that I do not know who among us is the wise man. This man, however, denies that even the wise man himself knows anything — not even that very wisdom from which he is called wise. Who would not see whose the palm is? For if my adversary shall say this, I shall conquer in glory;
因為我要在那學園派已經要退出審判之際攔住他;因為愚昧對這類勝利更為貪求。所以,把他攔下後,我要向審判者揭露他們所不知道的,並說:諸位傑出的先生,我與他有此共通之處——他懷疑你們當中誰在追隨真理。但我們也各有自己的主張,我請你們就此判斷。因為對我而言,雖然我已聽過你們的裁決,真理何在確實仍不確定——但緣故正在於此:我不知道我們當中誰是智者。然而此人竟否認智者本身知道任何事——甚至否認他之所以被稱為智者所憑的那智慧本身。誰看不出勝利的棕枝屬於誰呢?因為我的對手若這樣說,我就在榮耀上得勝;
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si autem erubescens confessus luerit sapientem scire sapientiam, uincam sententia. Sed ab hoc iam litigioso tribunali secedamus in aliquem locum, ubi nobis nulla turba molesta sit, atque utinam in ipsam scholam Platonis, quae nomen ex eo dicitur accepisse, quod a populo sit secreta. hic iam non de gloria, quod leue ac puerile est, sed de ipsa uita et de aliqua spe animi beati, quantum inter nos possumus, disseramus. negant Academici sciri aliquid posse. unde hoc uobis placuit, studiosissimi homines atque doctissimi ? monuit nos, inquiunt, definitio Zenonis. cur quaeso? nam si uera est, nonnihil ueri nouit qui uel ipsam nouit, sin falsa, non debuit constantissimos commouere.
but if, blushing, he shall confess that the wise man knows wisdom, I shall conquer in judgment. But let us now withdraw from this litigious tribunal into some place where no crowd may trouble us — and would that it were into the very school of Plato, which is said to have received its name from this, that it was set apart from the people. Here let us now discourse, not about glory, which is a light and childish thing, but about life itself and about some hope of a blessed soul, as far as we can among ourselves. The Academics deny that anything can be known. Whence did this please you, most zealous and most learned men? 'The definition of Zeno,' they say, 'admonished us.' Why, I pray? For if it is true, he who knows even it knows something of the truth; but if false, it ought not to have moved men so constant.
但他若羞紅著臉承認智者知道智慧,我就在判斷上得勝。如今讓我們從這好爭訟的法庭退到某個地方,那裡沒有人群來攪擾我們——但願是退進柏拉圖的學園本身,它據說得名於此:因為它是與百姓分隔開來的。在這裡,讓我們如今討論的,不是那輕浮而幼稚的榮耀,而是生命本身,以及對幸福靈魂的某種盼望,盡我們彼此之間所能。學園派否認任何事物能被認識。這主張是從何處使你們喜悅的呢,你們這些最熱心、最有學問的人?他們說:「芝諾的定義提醒了我們。」我請問:為什麼呢?因為那定義若是真的,那知道它的人就已知道了些許真理;若是假的,它本不該打動如此堅定的人。
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sed uideamus quid ait Zeno: tale scilicet uisum comprehendi et percipi posse, quale cum falso non haberet signa communia. hocine te mouit, homo Platonice, ut omnibus uiribus ab spe discendi studiosos retraheres, ut totum negotium philosophandi adiuuante quodam etiam mentis ingemescendo torpore desererent? Sed quomodo illum non permoueret, si et nihil tale inueniri potest et, nisi quod tale est, percipi non potest? hoc si ita est, dicendum potius erat non posse in hominem cadere sapientiam quam sapientem nescire, cur uiuat, nescire, quem ad modum uiuat, nescire, utrum uiuat, postremo, quo peruersius magisque delirum et insanum dici nihil potest, simul et sapientem esse et ignorare sapientiam.
But let us see what Zeno says: namely, that such an appearance can be comprehended and perceived as, when it is from a real thing, would not have signs in common with the false. Did this move you, O Platonic man, so that with all your strength you drew the studious back from the hope of learning, so that they should desert the whole business of philosophizing — with even a certain groaning torpor of mind aiding it? But how would it not move him, if both nothing such can be found and, unless it is such, it cannot be perceived? If this is so, it ought rather to have been said that wisdom cannot befall a man, than that the wise man does not know why he lives, does not know how he lives, does not know whether he lives, and finally — than which nothing can be called more perverse and more mad and insane — that he is at once both wise and ignorant of wisdom.
但讓我們看看芝諾說了什麼:即,這樣的表象能被領會、被感知——它出於真實之物時,不會與虛假之物有共通的記號。柏拉圖派的先生,難道就是這話打動了你,以致你竭盡全力把好學之人從學習的盼望中拉回,好叫他們拋棄整個探哲之業——甚至還有心靈某種呻吟般的麻木助長此事?可是,倘若既無這樣的表象能被尋見,且除非是這樣的表象否則不能被感知,那定義怎能不打動他呢?若是如此,倒不如說「智慧不能臨到人」,而不該說智者不知道自己為何而活、不知道自己如何而活、不知道自己是否活著,末了——沒有比這更悖謬、更瘋狂、更失心的說法了——說他既是智者又不知道智慧。
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quid enim est durius, hominem non posse esse sapientem an sapientem nescire sapientiam ? nihil hinc disputandum est, si res ipsa ita positasatisnonest ad diiudicandum. sed illud forte si diceretur, penitus homines a philosophando auerterentur; nunc uero inducendi sunt sapientiae dulcissimo et sanctissimo nomine, ut, cum contrita aetate nihil didicerint, postea te summis execrationibus prosequantur, quem relictis saltem uoluptatibus corporis ad animi tormenta secuti sunt. Sed uideamus, per quem potius a philosophia deterreantur, per eumne, qui dixerit: audi. amice, philosophia non ipsa sapientia, sed studium sapientiae uocatur;
For which is harder to accept: that a man cannot be wise, or that the wise man does not know wisdom? Nothing is to be disputed on this point if the matter itself is not so posited as to be capable of judgment. But if perchance that were said, men would be utterly turned away from philosophizing; whereas now they must be enticed by the sweetest and holiest name of wisdom, so that, when they have learned nothing through a worn-out lifetime, they may afterwards pursue you with the direst curses — you whom, having at least left behind the pleasures of the body, they followed to the torments of the soul. But let us see through whom they are rather to be deterred from philosophy: through the one who has said, 'Hear, friend: philosophy is called not wisdom itself, but the study of wisdom;
因為哪一樣更難接受呢:是人不能成為智者,還是智者不知道智慧?若事情本身並非被安置成能夠判定的樣式,就無需就此爭論。但那話若當真被說出,人們就要被徹底地從探哲中勸退了;而如今卻須以智慧那最甘美、最神聖的名字引誘他們,好叫他們用一生磨蹭卻一無所學之後,反倒以最惡毒的咒罵追討你——你這個把他們引到心靈折磨的人,他們至少已為此撇下了肉體的快樂。但讓我們看看,該藉著誰把他們從哲學勸退:是藉著那說「朋友啊,聽著:哲學被稱作的不是智慧本身,而是對智慧的追求」的人;
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ad quam te si contuleris, non quidem, dum hic uiuis, sapiens eris — est enim apud deum sapientia nec prouenire homini potest — sed cum te tali studio satis exercueris atque mundaueris, animus tuus ea post hanc uitam, id est cum homo esse desieris, facile perfruetur, an per eum, qui dixerit: uenite, mortales, ad philosophiam! magnus hic fructus est; quid enim homini sapientia carius? uenite igitur, ut sapientes sitis et sapientiam nesciatis! \'non\', inquit, \'a me ita dicetur\'. hoc est decipere; nam nihil aliud apud te inuenietur. ita fit, ut, si hoc dixeris, fugiant tamquam insanum, si alio modo ad hoc adduxeris, facias insanos.
and to which if you betake yourself, you will not indeed be wise while you live here — for wisdom is with God and cannot come to man — but when you have sufficiently exercised and cleansed yourself in such a study, your soul, after this life, that is, when you have ceased to be a man, will easily enjoy it to the full' — or through the one who has said: 'Come, mortals, to philosophy! Great is the fruit here; for what is dearer to a man than wisdom? Come, therefore, that you may be wise and yet not know wisdom!' 'It will not,' he says, 'be so put by me.' This is to deceive; for nothing else will be found in your case. And so it comes about that, if you say this, they flee as from a madman; if by some other means you lead them to it, you make them mad.
你若投身於它,固然在今生活著時不會成為智者——因為智慧在於神那裡,不能臨到人——但當你在這樣的追求中充分操練並潔淨了自己,你的靈魂在此生之後,也就是當你不再作人之時,便能輕易地盡情享受它。或者,該藉著那說「來吧,必死的人們,到哲學這裡來!這裡的果實何等豐碩;因為對人而言有什麼比智慧更寶貴呢?所以來吧,好叫你們成為智者,卻又不知道智慧!」的人。他說:「我不會這樣講的。」這正是欺騙;因為在你這裡找不出別的話來。於是便發生這樣的事:你若這樣說,他們就如避瘋子般逃走;你若以別的方式把他們引到這地步,你就使他們發瘋。
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sed credamus propter utramque sententiam aeque homines nolle philosophari. si aliquid philosophiae perniciosum Zenonis definitio dicere cogebat, mi homo. idne homini dicendum fuit, unde se doleret, an id, unde te derideret? Tamen quod Zeno definiuit, quantum stulti possumus, discutiamus. id uisum ait posse comprehendi, quod sic appareret, ut falsum apparere non posset. manifestum est nihil aliud in perceptionem uenire. hoc et ego. inquit Arcesilas, uideo et hoc ipso doceo nihil percipi. non enim tale aliquid inueniri potest. fortasse abs te atque ab aliis stultis; at a sapiente cur non potest :
But let us grant that, on account of either opinion, men equally do not wish to philosophize. If Zeno's definition compelled him to say something pernicious to philosophy — my good man, was that to be said to a man from which he would grieve, or that from which he would deride you? Nevertheless, let us examine, so far as we fools can, what Zeno defined. He says that appearance can be comprehended which so appears that it could not appear false. It is manifest that nothing else comes into perception. 'This I too,' says Arcesilas, 'see, and by this very thing I teach that nothing is perceived. For no such thing can be found.' Perhaps by you and by other fools; but why can it not be found by the wise man?
但讓我們承認:由於這兩種說法中的任一種,人們同樣不願探哲。倘若芝諾的定義迫使他說出某些對哲學有害的話——我的好人啊,那該對一個人說的,究竟是叫他為之憂傷的話,還是叫他嘲笑你的話呢?儘管如此,讓我們盡我們這些愚人所能,來剖析芝諾所定義的。他說:那能被領會的表象,是這樣顯現的——以致它不可能顯現為假。顯然,別無他物能進入感知。阿爾克西勞斯說:「這我也看見了,並且正憑這一點我教導說:什麼都不能被感知。因為這樣的表象根本無法尋見。」也許在你和別的愚人那裡尋不見;但為什麼在智者那裡就不能尋見呢?
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quamquam et ipsi stulto nihil responderi posse arbitror, si tibi dicat, ut illo memorabili acumine tuo hanc ipsam Zenonis definitionem refellas et ostendas cani etiam falsam esse posse; quod si non potueris, hanc ipsam quam percipias habes. si autem refelleris. unde a percipiendo impediaris non habes. ego eam refelli posse non uideo et omnino uerissimam iudico. itaque cum eam scio, quamuis sim stultus, nonnihil scio. sed fac illam uersutiae tuae cedere. utar complexione securissima. aut enim uera est aut falsa. si uera, bene teneo; si falsa, potest aliquid percipi, etiamsi habeat communia signa cum falso. unde, inquit, potest?
Although I think that nothing can be answered even to the fool, if he should say to you: refute, with that memorable acumen of yours, this very definition of Zeno, and show that even the false can be comprehended; but if you cannot, then this very thing which you might perceive, you have. But if you refute it, you do not have that whereby you might be hindered from perceiving. I do not see that it can be refuted, and I judge it altogether most true. And so, when I know it, although I am a fool, I know something. But grant that it yields to your cunning. I will use a most secure dilemma. For it is either true or false. If true, I hold it well; if false, something can be perceived, even though it have signs in common with the false. 'Whence,' he says, 'can it?'
雖然我認為,甚至對那愚人也無話可答,倘若他對你說:憑你那令人難忘的敏銳,去駁倒芝諾這條定義吧,並指出連虛假之物也能被領會;但你若不能,那麼你所能感知的這件事,你就已握有了。可是你若駁倒了它,你便沒有可以攔阻自己感知的憑據了。我看不出它能被駁倒,並且我判定它全然是最真的。因此,當我知道它時,雖然我是愚人,我卻知道了些什麼。但姑且承認它向你的狡計讓步了。我要用一個最穩妥的兩難:因為它非真即假。若是真的,我把它握得穩妥;若是假的,那麼即使某物與虛假有共通的記號,仍有某物能被感知。他說:「從何處能呢?」
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uerissime igitur Zeno definiuit nec ei quisquis uel in hoc consensit, errauit. an paruae laudis et sinceritatis definitionem putabimus, quae contra eos. qui erant aduersum perceptionem multa dicturi, cum designaret quale esset quod percipi posset, se ipsam talem esse monstrauit? ita comprehendibilibus rebus et definitio est et exemplum. utrum, ait, l\'tiam ipsa uera sit nescio; sed quia est probabilis, ideo eam sequens ostendo nihil esse tale, quale illa expressit posse comprehendi. ostendis fortasse praeter ipsam et uides, ut arbitror, quid sequatur. quodsi etiam eius incerti sumus, nec ita nos deserit scientia. scimus enim aut ueram esse aut falsam; non igitur nihil scimus.
Most truly, therefore, did Zeno define, nor did anyone who agreed with him even in this err. Or shall we think it a definition of small praise and sincerity, which, against those who were going to say many things against perception, when it designated of what sort was that which could be perceived, showed that it itself was of that very sort? Thus of comprehensible things there is both a definition and an example. 'Whether,' he says, 'that very definition is itself true, I do not know; but because it is probable, therefore, following it, I show that there is nothing of that sort which it expressed could be comprehended.' You show, perhaps, besides it itself, and you see, I think, what follows. But if we are uncertain even of it, knowledge does not thus desert us. For we know that it is either true or false; therefore we do not know nothing.
因此,芝諾定義得最真確,凡在這點上與他同意的人也無一有錯。難道我們要認為那定義少有可稱讚與真誠之處麼?它針對那些將要對「感知」大加抨擊的人,在指明「能被感知者是何等樣式」時,竟顯明了它自己正是那樣式。如此,就可領會之物而言,既有定義,也有實例。他說:「那定義本身是否為真,我不知道;但因為它是可信的,所以我依循它而指出:凡它所描述『能被領會』的那種樣式,其實都不存在。」你所指出的,也許正是那定義本身之外的事,而且我想你看見了隨之而來的結論。但即使我們連它也不確定,知識也並不因此離棄我們。因為我們知道它非真即假;所以我們並非一無所知。
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quamquam numquam efficiet, ut ingratus sim, prorsus ego illam definitionem uerissimam iudico. aut enim possunt percipi et falsa, quod uehementius Academici timent et re uera absurdum est, aut nec ea possunt, quae sunt falsis simillima; unde illa definitio uera est. sed iam cetera uideamus. Quamuis haec, nisi fallor, possint ad uictoriam satis esse, non tamen fortasse ad uictoriae satietatem. duo sunt, quae ab Academicis dicuntur, contra quae, ut ualemus, uenire instituimus: nihil posse percipi et nulli rei debere assentiri. de assentiendo mox; nunc alia pauca de perceptione dicemus. nihilne prorsus dicitis posse conprehendi?
Although it will never bring it about that I am ungrateful — I altogether judge that definition most true. For either even false things can be perceived, which the Academics fear too vehemently and which is truly absurd; or else not even those things can be perceived which are most like the false — whence that definition is true. But now let us see the rest. Although these things, unless I am mistaken, may be enough for victory, yet perhaps not for a surfeit of victory. There are two things said by the Academics against which, as we are able, we have determined to go: that nothing can be perceived, and that assent must be given to nothing. Of assenting, presently; now we will say a few other things about perception. Do you say that absolutely nothing can be comprehended?
雖然它絕不會使我變得忘恩——我全然判定那定義是最真的。因為要麼連虛假之物也能被感知(這是學園派過分害怕的、而且確實荒謬),要麼連那些與虛假最相像之物也不能被感知——由此那定義就是真的。但如今讓我們看其餘的。雖然這些論點若我沒弄錯,足以致勝,卻也許還不足以致勝到令人饜足的地步。學園派說了兩件事,我們既盡所能,就決意要對抗它們:一是「什麼都不能被感知」,二是「不該對任何事物給予認同」。論認同的事稍後再說;如今我們要就感知再說幾句別的。你們真的說絕對沒有什麼能被領會嗎?
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hic euigilauit Carneades - nam nemo istorum minus alte quam ille dormiuit — et circumspexit rerum euidentiam. itaque credo secum ipse, ut fit, loquens: ergone, ait, Carneade, dicturus es nescire te, utrum homo sis an formica? aut de te Chrysippus triumphabit? dicamus ea nos nescire, quae inter philosophos inquiruntur, cetera ad nos non pertinere, ut si in luce titubauero cotidiana et uulgari, ad illas imperitorum tenebras prouocem, ubi soli quidam diuini oculi uident, qui me, etiamsi palpitantem atque cadentem aspexerint, caecis prodere nequeant praesertim arrogantibus et quos doceri aliquid pudeat.
Here Carneades awoke — for none of them slept less deeply than he — and looked around at the evidence of things. And so, I believe, speaking with himself, as happens, he said: 'Then, Carneades, are you going to say that you do not know whether you are a man or an ant? Or shall Chrysippus triumph over you? Let us say that we do not know those things which are inquired into among philosophers, and that the rest do not pertain to us — so that, if I stumble in the daily and common light, I may appeal to those shadows of the ignorant, where certain divine eyes alone see, which, even if they behold me quivering and falling, cannot betray me to the blind — especially the arrogant and those who are ashamed to be taught anything.'
這裡卡爾內阿德斯醒了過來——因為他們中間沒有一個睡得比他淺——他環顧了事物的明證。於是,我相信,他如常自言自語道:「那麼,卡爾內阿德斯,你竟要說你不知道自己是人還是螞蟻嗎?還是要讓克律西波斯凱旋於你之上?讓我們說:那些在哲學家中被探究的事,我們不知道;至於其餘的,都與我們無干——這樣,我若在日常平凡的光亮中絆倒,就可訴諸無知者的那片幽暗,那裡唯有某些神性的眼睛才看得見;就算它們看見我顫抖跌倒,也不能把我出賣給那些瞎子——尤其是那些傲慢、以受教為恥的人。」
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laute quidem o Graeca industria, succincta et parata procedis, sed non respicis illam definitionem et inuentum esse philosophi et in uestibulo philosophiae fixam atque fundatam. quam si succidere temtabis, rediet bipennis in crura; illa enim labefacta non solum potest aliquid percipi sed etiam id potest, quod simillimum falso est, si eam non audebis euertere. est enim latibulum tuum, unde in incautos transire cupientes uehemens erumpis atque exilis; aliquis te Hercules in tua spelunca tamquam semihominem suffocabit et eiusdem molibus opprimet docens aliquid esse in philosophia, quod tamquam simile falso incertum abs te fieri non possit. certe ad alia properabam;
Elegantly indeed, O Greek industry, girt up and prepared do you advance; but you do not look back at that definition, which was both the invention of a philosopher and fixed and founded in the very vestibule of philosophy. If you attempt to cut it down, the axe will rebound into your legs; for once it is overthrown, not only can something be perceived, but even that can be perceived which is most like the false — if you will not dare to overturn it. For it is your hiding-place, from which you burst out violently and leap upon the incautious who wish to pass by; some Hercules will strangle you in your own cave, as a half-man, and crush you with its own mass, teaching that there is something in philosophy which cannot be made uncertain by you as being like the false. Certainly I was hastening to other things;
希臘的勤勉啊,你確實優雅地束裝待發、有備而進;可是你不回頭看看那定義,它既是一位哲學家的發明,又是牢牢釘定、奠立在哲學的門廊之中。你若試圖砍倒它,斧頭必反彈回你的腿上;因為它一旦被推翻,就不僅有某物能被感知,甚至連那與虛假最相像之物也能被感知——只要你不敢把它徹底掀翻。因為它正是你的藏身之處,你從那裡猛然衝出,撲向想要經過的不慎之人;某位赫拉克勒斯必在你自己的洞穴裡把你這半人掐死,用洞穴自身的重量壓垮你,教你明白:哲學中確有某物,是你無法以「彷彿與虛假相似」而使之變得不確定的。我本來確實正趕往別的論題;
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hoc quisquis urget, te ipsum, Carneade, magna afficit contumelia, quem a me uel mortuum putat ubicumque aut undecumque posse superari. si autem non putat, immisericors est, qui me passim deserere praesidia et tecum in campo certare cogit; in quem descendere cum coepissem, solo tuo nomine territus pedem rettuli et de superiore loco nescio quid iaculatus sum, quod utrum ad te peruenerit uel quid egerit, uiderint, sub quorum examine dimicamus. sed quid metuo ineptus ? si bene memini, mortuus es nec iam pro sepulchro tuo iure pugnat Alypius; facile me contra umbram tuam deus adiuuabit.
whoever presses this affects you yourself, Carneades, with great insult, since he thinks that you can be overcome by me anywhere and from any quarter, even though dead. But if he does not think so, he is merciless, who compels me everywhere to desert my defenses and to contend with you on the field; and when I had begun to descend into it, terrified by your name alone, I drew back my foot and hurled from the higher ground I know not what — which, whether it reached you or what it did, let those see under whose scrutiny we do battle. But why do I, foolish, fear? If I remember well, you are dead, nor does Alypius any longer fight by right for your tomb; God will easily aid me against your shade.
凡逼問此事的人,卡爾內阿德斯,都是對你自己大加侮辱,因為他認為你即便死了,也能被我在任何地方、從任何一方擊敗。但他若不這樣認為,就是冷酷無情的,竟迫使我處處撤離我的防禦,到戰場上與你交鋒;當我開始下到戰場時,單被你的名字嚇住,就縮回了腳,從高處擲出了不知什麼——它是否射到了你、又起了什麼作用,讓那些監臨我們交戰的人去看吧。可是我這愚人何必懼怕呢?若我記得不錯,你已經死了,阿里皮烏斯也不再有權為你的墳墓爭戰;神必輕易地助我對抗你的幽魂。
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Nihil ais in philosophia posse percipi et, ut orationem tuam large lateque diffundas, arripis rixas dissensionesque philosophorum et eas tibi contra illos arma ministrare arbitraris. quomodo enim inter Democritum et superiores physicos de uno mundo et innumerabilibus litem diiudicabimus, cum inter ipsum heredemque eius Epicurum concordia manere nequiuerit? nam iste luxuriosus cum atomos quasi ancillulas suas, id est corpuscula, quae in tenebris laetus amplectitur, non tenere uiam suam sed in alienos limites passim sponte declinare permittit, totum patrimonium etiam per iurgia dissipauit. hoc uero nihil ad me attinet.
You say that nothing in philosophy can be perceived, and, in order to spread your oration far and wide, you seize upon the brawls and dissensions of the philosophers, and you think they furnish you weapons against them. For how shall we judge the dispute between Democritus and the earlier physicists concerning one world and innumerable worlds, when between him and his heir Epicurus concord could not remain? For that luxurious fellow, since he permits his atoms — as though his little handmaids, that is, the little bodies which he joyfully embraces in the darkness — not to keep their own way but to swerve of their own accord here and there into others' boundaries, has squandered his whole patrimony, even through quarrels. But this indeed pertains nothing to me.
你說哲學中沒有什麼能被感知,並且為要把你的論述鋪展得又廣又遠,你便攫取哲學家們的爭鬧與紛歧,以為它們給你供應了對抗他們的武器。因為德謨克利特與更早的自然哲學家們,就「一個世界還是無數世界」所起的爭執,我們如何裁斷呢?既然連他與他的繼承人伊比鳩魯之間,都無法維持和睦。因為那放縱之人,既容許他的原子——彷彿他的小婢女,也就是他在黑暗中歡然擁抱的小物體——不守自己的軌道,反倒任意隨處偏離、越入別人的界域,他就把整份家業,甚至藉著爭吵,揮霍殆盡了。但這事其實與我毫不相干。
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si enim ad sapientiam pertinet horum aliquid scire, id non potest latere sapientem. si autem aliud quiddam est, sapientiam illam scit sapiens, ista contemnit. tamen ego, qui longe adhuc absum uel a uicinitate sapientis. in istis physicis nonnihil scio. certum enim habeo aut unum esse mundum aut non unum; et si non unum, aut finiti numeri aut infiniti. istam sententiam Carneades falsae esse similem ducent.
For if it pertains to wisdom to know any of these things, it cannot lie hidden from the wise man. But if it is something else, the wise man knows that wisdom of his, and despises these things. Nevertheless I, who am still far even from the neighborhood of the wise man, know something in these physical matters. For I hold it certain that either there is one world or not one; and if not one, then either of a finite number or of an infinite. Carneades will hold that this opinion is like the false.
因為,若知道這些事中的任一件是屬於智慧的,那它就不能對智者隱藏。但若那是別的什麼事,智者知道他那份智慧,卻輕看這些事。儘管如此,我這個至今甚至離智者的鄰近都還遠的人,在這些自然之事上仍知道一些。因為我確知:世界要麼是一個,要麼不是一個;若不是一個,就要麼是有限之數,要麼是無限之數。卡爾內阿德斯會認為這見解與虛假相像。
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item scio mundum istum nostrum aut natura corporum aut aliqua prouidentia sic esse dispositum eumque aut semper fuisse et fore aut coepisse esse minime desiturum aut ortum ex tempore non habere, sed habiturum esse finem aut et manere COl\'pisse et non perpetuo esse mansurum et innumerabilia physica hoc modo noui. uera enim sunt ista disiuncta nec similitudine aliqua falsi ea quisquam potest confundere. sed adsume aliquid. ait Academicus. nolo; nam hoc est dicere: relinque quod scis. dic quod nescis. sed pendet sententia. melius certe pendet quam cadit; nempe plena est; nempe iam potest aut falsa aut uera nominari. hanc ego me scire dico.
Likewise I know that this world of ours is so arranged either by the nature of bodies or by some providence, and that it either always was and will be, or began to exist but will by no means cease, or does not have a beginning in time but will have an end, or both began to abide and will not abide perpetually — and I know innumerable physical things in this manner. For these disjunctions are true, nor can anyone confound them by any likeness of the false. But 'assume something,' says the Academic. I will not; for this is to say: 'Abandon what you know; say what you do not know.' 'But the statement is left hanging.' Certainly it is better that it hang than that it fall; surely it is complete; surely it can now be named either false or true. This I say that I know.
同樣,我知道我們這世界之所以如此安排,或是憑物體的本性,或是憑某種護理;並且它或是向來就有、將來也仍有,或是曾開始存在卻絕不止息,或是在時間中沒有開端卻將有終結,或是既曾開始存續卻不永遠存續——我以這樣的方式知道無數的自然之事。因為這些選言判斷都是真的,也沒有人能以任何虛假的相似把它們攪亂。但學園派說:「假定某一項吧。」我不肯;因為這等於說:「撇下你所知道的;說你所不知道的。」他說:「可是這判斷懸而未決。」它懸著總比墜落好;它畢竟是完整的;它畢竟如今已可被稱為假或真了。這件事我說我知道。
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tu, qui nec ad philosophiam pertinere ista negas et eorum sciri nihil posse asseris, ostende me ista nescire; dic istas disiunctiones aut falsas esse aut aliquid commune habere cum falso, per quod discerni omnino non possint. Unde, inquit, scis esse istum mundum, si sensus falluntur? numquam rationes uestrae ita uim sensuum refellere potuerunt, ut conuinceretis nobis nihil uideri, nec omnino ausi estis aliquando ista temtare, sed posse aliud esse ac uidetur uehementer persuadere incubuistis. ego itaque hoc totum, qualecumque est, quod nos continet atque alit, hoc, inquam, quod oculis meis apparet a meque sentitur habere terram et caelum aut quasi terram et quasi caelum. mundum uoco.
You, who both deny that these things pertain to philosophy and assert that nothing of them can be known, show me that I do not know these things; say that these disjunctions are either false or have something in common with the false, whereby they cannot be distinguished at all. 'Whence,' he says, 'do you know that this world exists, if the senses are deceived?' Never have your reasonings been able so to refute the force of the senses as to convince us that nothing seems to us, nor have you ever at all dared to attempt this, but you have labored vehemently to persuade us that a thing can be otherwise than it seems. And so I call this whole thing, whatever it is, which contains and nourishes us — this, I say, which appears to my eyes and is perceived by me to have earth and heaven, or as it were earth and as it were heaven — I call it the world.
你既否認這些事屬於哲學,又斷言其中沒有什麼能被認識,那就請你指出我不知道這些事;請說這些選言判斷或是假的,或是與虛假有某種共通之處,以致根本無法被分辨。他說:「若感官會受騙,你從何知道這世界存在呢?」你們的推論從來不曾能夠把感官的力量駁倒到這地步——以致使我們信服「我們什麼都沒有看見似的」;你們也從來不曾竟敢嘗試這樣做,你們反倒竭力想使人相信:事物可能與它顯現的樣子不同。因此,這整個東西,無論它是什麼,就是那包容並養育我們的——我說,就是那顯現於我眼前、被我感知為擁有地與天、或彷彿地與彷彿天的——我稱它為「世界」。
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si dicis nihil mihi uideri, numquam errabo. is enim errat, qui quod sibi uidetur temere probat. posse enim falsum uideri a sentientibus dicitis, nihil uideri non dicitis. prorsus enim omnis disputationis causa tolletur, ubi regnare uos libet, si non solum nihil scimus, sed etiam nil nobis uidetur. si autem hoc, quod mihi uidetur, negas mundum esse, de nomine controuersiam facis, cum id a me dixerim mundum uocari. Etiamne, inquies, si dormis, mundus estiste quem uides ? iam dictum est, quidquid tale mihi uidetur, mundum appello.
If you say that nothing seems to me, I shall never err. For he errs who rashly approves what seems to him. For you say that the false can seem to those who perceive; you do not say that nothing seems. For the whole ground of every disputation will be taken away — where you like to reign — if we not only know nothing but even nothing seems to us. But if you deny that this which seems to me is the world, you are making a controversy about the name, since I said that it is by me called the world. 'Even so,' you will say, 'if you are asleep, is this which you see the world?' It has already been said that whatever seems to me such, I call the world.
你若說「在我看來什麼都沒有」,我就永不會出錯。因為出錯的乃是那鹵莽地認可自己所見之物的人。因為你們說:虛假之物能在感知者看來如此;你們並不說「什麼都沒有顯現」。因為凡辯論的全部根基都要被除去——在你們樂於稱王之處——倘若我們不僅一無所知,而且連什麼都沒有顯現於我們。但你若否認這在我看來如此的東西是世界,你就是在名稱上挑起爭議了,因為我已說過:它是被我稱作世界的。你會說:「即便如此,你若睡著了,你所看見的這個是世界嗎?」前面已經說過:凡在我看來這樣的,我都稱它為世界。
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sed si eum solum placet mundum uocare, qui uidetur a uigilantibus uel etiam a sanis, illud contende, si potes, eos, qui dormiunt ac furiunt, non in mundo furere atque dormire. quam ob rem hoc dico, istam totam corporum molem atque machinam, in qua sumus siue dormientes siue furentes siue uigilantes siue sani, aut unam esse aut non esse unam. edissere, quomodo ista possit falsa esse sententia. si enim dormio, fieri potest, ut nihil dixerim; aut si etiam ore dormientis uerba, ut solet, euaserunt, potest fieri, ut non hic, non ita sedens, non istis audientibus dixerim; ut autem hoc falsum sit, non potest. nec ego me illud percepisse dico, quod uigilem.
But if it please you to call only that the world which is seen by those who are awake, or even by the sane, then maintain, if you can, that those who sleep and rave do not rave and sleep in the world. For this reason I say this: that this whole mass and machine of bodies, in which we are, whether sleeping or raving or waking or sane, either is one or is not one. Explain how that opinion can be false. For if I am asleep, it may be that I have said nothing; or if even from the mouth of a sleeper words have escaped, as is wont, it may be that I have not said it here, not sitting thus, not with these listeners; but that this should be false, it cannot be. Nor do I say that I have perceived it while I am awake.
但你若樂於只把那被醒著的人、甚至被神智清醒的人所看見的稱作世界,那麼你若能夠,就請主張:睡著和發狂的人並非在世界裡發狂與睡覺。為此緣故我這樣說:這整團物體的堆聚與機構,就是我們無論睡著、發狂、醒著或清醒都身處其中的,它要麼是一個,要麼不是一個。請解釋那見解如何能是假的。因為我若睡著了,可能我什麼都沒說;或者即便從睡者口中如常溜出了話語,也可能我並非在此處、並非這樣坐著、並非有這些聽者在旁而說出的;但要說「這判斷」是假的,卻不可能。我也不說我是在醒著時感知了它。
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potes enim dicere hoc mihi etiam dormienti uideri potuisse, ideoque hoc potest esse falso simillimum. si autem unus et sex mundi sunt, septem mundos esse, quoquo modo affectus sim, manifestum est et id me scire non impudenter affirmo. quare uel hanc conexionem uel illas superius disiunctiones doce somno aut furore aut uanitate sensuum posse esse falsas et me, si expergefactus ista meminero. uictum esse concedam. credo enim iam satis liquere, quae per somnium et dementiam falsa uideantur, ea scilicet quae ad corporis sensus pertinent; nam ter terna nouem esse et quadratum intellegibilium numerorum necesse est uel genere humano stertente sit uerum.
For you can say that this could have seemed so to me even when asleep, and therefore this can be most like the false. But if there are one and six worlds, that there are seven worlds is manifest, in whatever state I am affected, and I affirm not impudently that I know it. Therefore teach that either this connection or those disjunctions above can be false through sleep or through madness or through the vanity of the senses; and if, when awakened, I shall remember these things, I will concede that I have been vanquished. For I believe it is now sufficiently clear which things seem false through sleep and dementia — namely, those which pertain to the bodily senses; for that thrice three is nine, and the square of intelligible numbers, must necessarily be true even while the human race is snoring.
因為你能說:這在我睡著時也可能對我顯得如此,因此它可能與虛假最相像。但若有一個世界和六個世界,那麼有七個世界就是顯然的——無論我處於何種狀態受何影響;而且我毫不冒昧地斷言我知道這一點。所以,你且教我:這個連結判斷、或上面那些選言判斷,如何能藉睡眠、發狂或感官的虛妄而為假;並且,若我醒來後記得這些事,我就承認我被擊敗了。因為我相信,如今已相當清楚:哪些事會藉睡眠與昏亂而顯得虛假——就是那些屬於肉體感官的事;因為三乘三得九,以及可理解之數的平方,即使人類正在打鼾,也必然是真的。
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quam quam etiam pro ipsis sensibus multa uideo posse dici, quae ab Academicis reprehensa non inuenimus. credo enim sensus non accusari, uel quod imaginationes falsas furentes patiuntur uel quod falsa in somnis uidemus. si enim uera uigilantibus sanisque renuntiarunt, nihil ad eos, quid sibi animus dormientis insanientisque confingat. Restat, ut quaeratur, utrum cum ipsi renuntiant uerum renuntient. age, si dicat Epicureus quispiam: \'nihil habeo quod de sensibus conquerar; iniustum est enim ab eis exigere plus quam possunt; quidquid autem possunt uidere oculi, uerum uident\', ergone uerum est quod de remo in aqua uident? prorsus uerum.
Although I see that many things can also be said on behalf of the senses themselves, which we do not find reprehended by the Academics. For I believe the senses are not accused, either because the raving suffer false imaginations, or because we see false things in dreams. For if the senses have reported truly to those awake and sane, it is nothing to them what the mind of one sleeping or insane fashions for itself. It remains to be asked whether, when they report, they report the truth. Come, if some Epicurean should say: 'I have nothing to complain of concerning the senses; for it is unjust to demand from them more than they can; but whatever the eyes can see, they see truly' — is then that true which they see concerning the oar in the water? Absolutely true.
雖然我看見,也有許多話可為感官本身辯護,這些話我們並未發現被學園派所駁斥。因為我相信感官並未被控告——無論是因為發狂者遭受虛假的想像,還是因為我們在夢中看見虛假之物。因為若感官已向醒著且清醒的人如實稟報,那麼睡者或狂者的心思為自己虛構什麼,就與感官無干了。剩下要問的是:當感官稟報時,它們稟報的是否為真。來吧,若某個伊比鳩魯派的人說:「關於感官,我沒有什麼可抱怨的;因為向它們索求超過其所能,乃是不公道的;但凡眼睛所能看見的,它就如實看見。」那麼,它們就水中的槳所看見的,是真的嗎?完全是真的。
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nam causa accedente, quare ita uideretur, si demersus unda remus rectus appareret, magis oculos meos falsae renuntiationis arguerem. non enim uiderent, quod talibus existentibus causis uidendum fuit. quid multis opus est? hoc de turrium motu, hoc de pinnulis auium, hoc de ceteris innumerabilibus dici potest. \'ego tamen fallor, si adsentiar\', ait quispiam. noli plus adsentiri, quam ut ita tibi apparere persuadeas, et nulla deceptio est. non enim uideo, quomodo refellat Academicus eum qui dicit: hoc mihi candidum uideri scio, hoc auditum meum delectari scio, hoc mihi iucunde olere scio, hoc mihi sapere dulciter scio, hoc mihi esse frigidum scio.
For, since a cause was present why it should so appear, if the oar submerged in the wave appeared straight, I would rather accuse my eyes of a false report. For they would not see what, such causes existing, had to be seen. What need of many words? This can be said of the movement of towers, this of the little feathers of birds, this of countless other things. 'Yet I am deceived, if I assent,' someone says. Do not assent to more than that you persuade yourself that it so appears to you, and there is no deception. For I do not see how the Academic refutes him who says: 'I know that this seems white to me; I know that this delights my hearing; I know that this smells pleasant to me; I know that this tastes sweet to me; I know that this is cold to me.'
因為既有緣由使它顯得如此,那麼那浸沒在水波中的槳若顯得筆直,我倒要控告我的眼睛作了虛假的稟報。因為它們就沒看見那在如此緣由存在下本該被看見的了。何必多言?這話可用於塔樓的移動,可用於鳥兒的小羽毛,可用於其他無數的事物。有人說:「然而我若給予認同,我就受了欺騙。」你不必認同得超過「你使自己相信它對你顯得如此」,這樣就沒有欺騙。因為我看不出學園派如何駁倒那說這話的人:「我知道這在我看來是白的;我知道這使我的聽覺愉悅;我知道這在我聞來是香的;我知道這在我嚐來是甜的;我知道這對我是冷的。」
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dic potius, utrum per se amarae sint oleastri frondes, quas caper tam pertinaciter appetit.s o hominem inprobum! nonne est caper ipse modestior? nescio, quales pecori sint, mihi tamen amarae sunt. quid quaeris amplius ? sed est fortasse aliquis etiam hominum, cui non sint amarae. tendisne in molestiam? numquidnam ego amaras esse omnibus dixi? mihi dixi et huc non semper adfirmo. quid, si enim alias alia causa nunc dulce quippiam, nunc amarum in ore sentiatur? illud dico, posse hominem, cum aliquid gustat, bona fide iurare se scire palato suo illud suaue esse uel contra nec ulla calumnia Graeca ab ista scientia posse deduci.
Tell me rather whether the leaves of the wild olive, which the goat so persistently craves, are bitter in themselves. O shameless man! Is not the goat itself more moderate? I do not know how they may be to the flock; to me, however, they are bitter. What more do you ask? But perhaps there is even some man to whom they are not bitter. Are you straining after annoyance? Have I said anywhere that they are bitter to all? I said to myself, and even here I do not always affirm it. For what if at different times, from a different cause, now something sweet, now something bitter, be perceived in the mouth? This I say: that a man, when he tastes something, can in good faith swear that he knows it is sweet to his palate, or the contrary, nor can he be led away from this knowledge by any Greek cavil.
你倒不如告訴我:那山羊如此執拗地貪吃的野橄欖葉,本身是否苦的。無恥之人啊!那山羊本身豈不更有節制?我不知道它們對羊群是什麼滋味;然而對我它們是苦的。你還要問什麼?可是也許甚至有某個人,對他它們並不苦。你是在強求麻煩嗎?我可曾在哪裡說過它們對所有人都苦?我只說對我,而且連在這裡我也不總是斷言。因為,倘若在不同時候、出於不同緣由,口中有時嚐到甜的、有時嚐到苦的呢?我要說的是:一個人在嚐某物時,能夠憑良心起誓說他知道它在他味覺上是甜的,或相反;也沒有任何希臘式的詭辯能把他從這知識中引開。
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quis enim tam inpudens sit, qui mihi cum delectatione aliquid ligurrienti dicat: fortasse nongustas, sed hoc somnium est ? numquidnamresisto? sed me tamen illud in somnis etiam delectaret. quare illud, quod me scire dixi, nulla confundit similitudo falsorum et Epicureus uel Cyrenaici et alia multa fortasse pro sensibus dicant, contra quae nihil dictum esse ab Academicis accepi. sed quid ad me? si uolunt ista et si possunt, etiam me fauente rescindant. quidquid enim contra sensus ab eis disputatur, non contra omnes philosophos ualet.
For who would be so shameless as to say to me, licking something with delight: 'Perhaps you are not tasting, but this is a dream'? Do I resist him? But that would still delight me even in a dream. Wherefore that which I said I know, no likeness of false things confounds; and the Epicurean or the Cyrenaics and many others may perhaps say things on behalf of the senses, against which I have received that nothing has been said by the Academics. But what is that to me? If they wish those things, and if they can, let them, even with my favor, cut them down. For whatever is disputed by them against the senses does not avail against all philosophers.
因為誰會這麼無恥,竟對我這正歡然舐嚐某物的人說:「也許你並沒在嚐,這是一場夢」?我駁斥他嗎?但那即便在夢中也仍會使我愉悅。所以,我所說我知道的那事,沒有任何虛假的相似能把它攪亂;伊比鳩魯派或居勒尼派以及許多別的人,也許能為感官說些話,我聽說學園派對這些話什麼都沒回應過。但這與我有何相干?他們若願意、若能夠,就儘管把那些話砍掉,我甚至樂觀其成。因為凡他們針對感官所辯的,都不足以對抗一切哲學家。
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sunt enim qui omnia ista, quae corporis sensu accipit animus, opinionem posse gignere confitentur, scientiam uero negant, quam tamen uolunt intellegentia contineri remotamque a sensibus in mente uiuere. et forte in eorum numero est sapiens ille, quem quaerimus. sed de hoc alias. nunc ad reliqua pergamus, quae propter ista, quae iam dicta sunt, paucis, nisi fallor, explicabimus. Quid enim de moribus inquirentem uel iuuat uel Ünpedit corporis sensus ?
For there are those who confess that all these things which the mind receives through the bodily sense can beget opinion, but they deny knowledge — which nevertheless they wish to be contained in the understanding and, removed from the senses, to live in the mind. And perhaps in the number of these is that wise man whom we seek. But of this another time. Now let us proceed to the rest, which, on account of those things already said, we shall, unless I am mistaken, explain in few words. For what does the bodily sense either help or hinder one inquiring about morals?
因為有這樣一些人,他們承認:凡心靈藉肉體感官所接受的這一切,都能生出意見,卻否認能生出知識——然而他們願這知識被包含在悟性之中,並且脫離感官,住在心裡。也許我們所尋找的那位智者,正在這些人之列。但關於這點,容後再論。如今讓我們往其餘的推進,這些事因著已說過的那些,我若沒弄錯,將用寥寥數語解明。因為肉體感官對一個探究德行之事的人,究竟有何助益或阻礙呢?
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nisi uero illos ipsos, qui summum hominis uerum bonum in uoluptate posuerunt, nihil impedit aut columbae collum aut uox incerta aut graue pondus homini, quod camelis leue est, aut alia sescenta, quominus dicant eo, quo delectantur, delectari se scire uel eo, quo offenduntur, offendi, quod refelli posse non uideo. eum commouebunt, qui finem boni mente complectitur? quid horum tu eligis ? si quid mihi uideatur quaeris, in mente arbitror esse summum hominis bonum. sed nunc de scientia quaerimus. ergo interroga sapientem, qui non potest ignorare sapientiam;
Unless indeed nothing hinders those very men who have placed the highest true good of man in pleasure — neither the neck of a dove, nor an uncertain voice, nor a heavy weight for a man which is light for camels, nor six hundred other things — from saying that they know they are delighted by that in which they are delighted, or are offended by that in which they are offended; which I do not see can be refuted. Will these move him who embraces the end of good with the mind? Which of these do you choose? If you ask what seems to me, I judge that the highest good of man is in the mind. But now we are inquiring about knowledge. Therefore ask the wise man, who cannot be ignorant of wisdom;
除非,那些把人至高的真善置於快樂中的人,實在沒有什麼能阻礙他們——無論是鴿子的頸子,還是不確定的聲音,還是對人沉重而對駱駝輕微的重量,還是其他六百樣東西——說他們知道自己因所歡喜之物而歡喜,或因所惱恨之物而惱恨;這一點我看不出如何能被駁倒。這些能打動那用心靈把握善之終極的人嗎?這些之中你選哪一樣?你若問我以為如何,我判定人至高的善在於心靈。但如今我們是在探究知識。所以請去問那不可能不知道智慧的智者;
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mihi tamen tardo illi atque stulto licet interim scire boni humani finem, in quo inhabitet beata uita, aut nullum esse aut in animo esse aut in corpore aut in utroque. hoc me, si potes, nescire conuince, quod notissimae illae uestrae rationes nullo modo faciunt. quod si non potes — non enim reperies, cui falso simile sit-egone concludere dubitabo recte mihi uideri scire sapientem quidquid in philosophia uerum est, cum ego inde tam multa uera cognouerim ? Sed metuit fortasse, ne summum bonum eligat dormiens. nihil pericli est; cum euigilauerit, repudiabit, si displicet, tenebit, si placet. quis enim eum recte uituperabit, quod falsum uidit in somnis?
but to me nonetheless, slow and foolish as I am, it is permitted meanwhile to know that the end of human good, in which the blessed life dwells, is either nothing, or is in the soul, or in the body, or in both. Convince me, if you can, that I do not know this — which those most famous reasonings of yours by no means accomplish. But if you cannot — for you will not find that to which it is like the false — shall I hesitate to conclude that it rightly seems to me that the wise man knows whatever is true in philosophy, since I myself have come to know from it so many true things? But perhaps he fears lest, while asleep, he should choose the highest good. There is no peril; when he has awakened, he will repudiate it if it displeases, will hold it if it pleases. For who will rightly blame him because he saw something false in dreams?
但對我這遲鈍愚昧的人而言,卻仍蒙允許暫且知道:人的善之終極——幸福生命所居之處——要麼不存在,要麼在於靈魂,要麼在於肉體,要麼在於二者。你若能夠,就使我信服我不知道這事——而你們那些最著名的推論絕做不到這一點。但你若不能——因為你找不出什麼可與虛假相像的——難道我還要遲疑不下結論,說我覺得智者知道哲學中凡為真之事,這乃是正確的嗎?既然我自己已從哲學中認識了如此眾多真的事。但他或許怕自己會在睡著時揀選了至高的善。這並無危險;他醒來後,若不喜悅就會棄絕它,若喜悅就會持守它。因為誰會有理地責備他,僅因他在夢中看見了某些虛假之物呢?
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aut fortasse illud formidabis, ne dormiens amittat sapientiam, si pro ueris falsa probauerit? hoc iam ne dormiens quidem audet somniare, ut sapientem uigilantem uocet, neget, si dormiat. haec etiam de furore dici possunt; sed in alia festinat oratio. haec tamen sine conclusione securissima non relinquo. aut enim amittitur furore sapientia et iam non erit sapiens, quem uerum ignorare clamatis, aut scientia eius manet in intellectu, etiamsi pars animi cetera id, quod accepit a sensibus, uelut in somnis imaginetur. Restat dialectica, quam certe sapiens bene nouit, nec falsum scire quisquam potest.
Or perhaps you will fear this: that while sleeping he may lose his wisdom, if he should approve falsehoods as true? Not even a sleeper would dare to dream up such a thing—to call a man wise while awake and deny him to be so if he sleeps. These same things may also be said concerning madness; but the discourse hastens on to other matters. Yet I do not leave these points without a most secure conclusion. For either wisdom is lost through madness, and he whom you cry out is ignorant of the truth will then no longer be wise; or his knowledge remains in his understanding, even though the remaining part of the soul imagines, as in dreams, whatever it has received from the senses. There remains dialectic, which the wise man certainly knows well, and no one can know a falsehood.
或許你會擔憂這樣一件事:智者在睡眠時會喪失他的智慧,倘若他把虛假之事當作真實而加以認可?連睡夢中的人也不敢作這樣的夢——竟稱一個人醒著時是智者,卻在他睡著時否認他是智者。這些話同樣也可以就瘋狂而言;但論述急於轉向別的題目。然而我不願不下一個極為穩妥的結論就放下這些論點。因為,要嘛智慧因瘋狂而喪失,那麼你們高聲宣稱其不識真理的那人便不再是智者;要嘛他的知識仍存於他的理智之中,縱使靈魂其餘的部分如在夢中一般,把它從感官所領受的事物幻想出來。此外還剩下辯證法,智者對此無疑是精通的,而沒有人能夠「知道」一件虛假的事。
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si uero eam nescit, non pertinet ad sapientiam eius cognitio, sine qua esse sapiens potuit, et superfluo utrum uera sit possitue percipi quaerimus. hic fortassis mihi aliquis dicat: \'soles prodere tu stulte, quid noueris, an de dialectica nihil scire potuisti?\' ego uero plura quam de quauis parte philosophiae. nam primo illas omnes propositiones, quibus supra usus sum, ueras esse ista me docuit. deinde per istam noui alia multa uera. sed quam multa sint, numerate, si potestis: si quattuor in mundo elementa sunt, non sunt quinque; si sol unus est, non sunt duo; non potest una anima et mori et esse inmortalis; non potest homo simul et beatus et miser esse; non hic et sol lucet et nox est;
But if he does not know it, then the knowledge of that thing does not pertain to his wisdom—the thing without which he could still be wise—and it is superfluous for us to ask whether it is true or whether it can be perceived. Here perhaps someone may say to me: 'You are always giving yourself away, foolish man—did you know what you claim, or were you unable to know anything about dialectic?' I, in truth, know more about it than about any other part of philosophy. For, first, it was dialectic that taught me that all those propositions which I used above are true. Then, through it, I have come to know many other true things. But count them, if you can, how many there are: if there are four elements in the world, there are not five; if there is one sun, there are not two; one and the same soul cannot both die and be immortal; a man cannot be at once both happy and wretched; here it cannot be both that the sun shines and that it is night;
但倘若他不知道它,那麼對那事物的認識便與他的智慧無關——他沒有那認識也仍能為智者——於是我們追問它是否為真、是否可被感知,就成了多餘。此時或許有人對我說:「愚人啊,你總是自暴其短——你到底知不知道你所宣稱的,還是你對辯證法竟一無所知?」我實在對它所知的,比對哲學任何其他部分所知的都多。因為,首先,正是辯證法教了我:我在上文所用的那一切命題都是真的。其次,藉著它我認識了許多別的真實之事。但若你能,就數一數共有多少:若世上有四種元素,便沒有五種;若只有一個太陽,便沒有兩個;同一個靈魂不能既會死又不朽;一個人不能同時既幸福又悲慘;此處不能既有太陽照耀又是黑夜;
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aut uigilamus nunc aut dormimus; aut corpus est, quod mihi uidere uideor, aut non est corpus. haec et alia multa, quae comme>;morare longissimum est, per istam didici uera esse, quoquo modo sese habeant sensus nostri, in se ipsa uera. docuit me, si cuius eorum, quae per conexio nem modo proposui, pars antecedens assumpta fuerit, trahere necessario id, quod annexum est, ea uero, quae per repugnantiam uel disiunctionem a me sunt enuntiata, hanc habere naturam, ut, cum auferuntur cetera, siue unum siue plura sint, restet aliquid, quod eorum ablatione firmetur.
either we are now awake or we are asleep; either there is a body which I seem to myself to see, or there is not a body. These and many other things, which it would be exceedingly long to recount, I have learned through dialectic to be true—true in themselves, in whatever way our senses may be disposed. It taught me that, if the antecedent part of any of those things which I just now set forth by way of connection be assumed, that which is annexed necessarily follows; and that those things which I have stated by way of incompatibility or disjunction have this nature: that when the rest are removed, whether they be one or many, there remains something which is confirmed by their removal.
我們此刻不是醒著就是睡著;不是有一個我似乎看見的物體,就是沒有那物體。這些以及許多別的、若要一一列舉將極為冗長的事物,我都藉辯證法學到它們是真的——就其自身而言是真的,無論我們的感官處於何種狀態。辯證法教了我:若我方才以「連結」方式所提出的那些命題中任一個的前件被設定,那麼與之相連的後件便必然被推出;而我以「不相容」或「析取」方式所陳述的那些命題,具有這樣的性質:當其餘各項被除去時,不論那些項是一個還是多個,總會剩下某一項,並因其餘各項的除去而得到確立。
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docuit etiam me, cum de re constat, propter quam uerba dicuntur, de uerbis non debere contendi, et quisquis id faciat, si imperitia faciat, docendum esse, si malitia, deserendum, si doceri non potest, monendum, ut aliquid aliud potius agat, quam tempus in superfluis operamque consumat, si non optemperat, neglegendum. de captiosis autem atque fallacibus ratiunculis breue praeceptum est: si male concedendo inferuntur, ad ea quae concessa sunt esse redeundum; si uerum falsumque in una conclusione confligunt, accipiendum inde quod intellegitur, quod explicari non potest relinquendum; si autem modus in aliquibus rebus latet penitus hominem, scientiam eius non esse quaerendam.
Dialectic also taught me that, when the matter about which words are spoken is agreed upon, one ought not to wrangle about the words; and that whoever does so, if he does it from ignorance, is to be instructed; if from malice, is to be abandoned; if he cannot be taught, is to be admonished to do something else rather than waste time and effort on superfluous things; and if he does not comply, is to be disregarded. And concerning captious and deceptive little arguments there is a brief precept: if they are drawn from an ill-made concession, one must return to what has been conceded; if truth and falsehood clash in a single conclusion, one must accept from it what is understood and leave aside what cannot be unraveled; but if the manner of some matters lies wholly hidden from a man, its knowledge is not to be sought.
辯證法還教了我:當人們所論說的事情本身已有共識時,就不該為言辭爭辯;而凡是這樣爭辯的人,若出於無知,就當受教導;若出於惡意,就當被撇下;若無法教導,就當受勸誡,要他去做別的事,而非把時間精力耗費在多餘之物上;若他仍不聽從,就當置之不理。至於那些狡猾而詭詐的小論證,有一條簡短的規則:若它們是由不當的讓步推導而來,就當回到所讓步的內容;若真與假在同一結論中相衝突,就當從中接受可理解的部分,把無法理清的部分擱置;但若某些事情的道理對人完全隱藏,就不當去尋求它的知識。
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