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Letters & Polemics (CSEL) 24 part 5/9

Latin original · 40 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss · long chapter, split into parts; this part covers 24:160–24:199 (337 verses in all)

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24:160
Isto igitur cum ille suos libros et initio praemuniuerit et termino communiuerit atque tuis humeris inposuerit onus religiosum correctionis et emendationis suae, hoc apud te inueniat quod petiuit, ut emendes eum iustus in misericordia et arguas cum ; oleum autem peccatoris, quo inpinguetur caput eius, absit a manibus atque . osculis tuis, id est assentatio indecens adulantis deceptoria lenitudo blandientis. quodsi emendare neglegis cum uideas emendandum, aduersus earitatem facis; si autem tibi emendandus propterea non uidetur, quia putas eum recte ista sensisse, aduersus ueritatem sapis.
Since therefore he has both fortified his books at the outset and secured them at the close, and has laid upon your shoulders the religious burden of correcting and amending him, let him find in you what he asked — that, being just, you may amend him in mercy and reprove him; but let not the oil of the sinner, wherewith his head might be made fat, be upon your hands and kisses — that is, the unseemly flattery of a fawner, the deceitful smoothness of a cajoler. But if you neglect to amend when you see amendment is needed, you act against charity; if, however, he seems to you not needing amendment because you think he has felt these things rightly, you are wise against the truth.
因此,他既在開端加固了他的書、又在末尾鞏固了它們,並把改正與修訂他的那份神聖重擔加在你的肩上,就讓他在你身上尋見他所求的:你作為公義之人,要以慈憐改正他、責備他;但不要讓那罪人的膏油——本可用來滋潤他的頭——沾在你的手上和親吻上,就是諂媚者不當的奉承、逢迎者欺人的柔滑。但你若見當改正之處卻疏於改正,就是違背了仁愛;然而你若以為他不需改正,因你認為他所感受的這些事都是正確的,那你就是以智慧敵擋真理。
24:161
et ideo ille melior, qui emendari est paratior, si non defuerit emendator, quam tu, si uel sciens inridenter contemnis errantem uel nesciens pariter sectaris errorem. omnia itaque in eisdem libris ad te scriptis et tibi traditis sobrie uigilanterque considera, et plura quam ego inuenies fortasse culpanda.
And therefore he is the better man, who is more ready to be amended (if an amender be not lacking), than you, if either knowingly you scornfully despise one in error, or unknowingly you likewise follow the error. Consider therefore all things in those same books, written to you and delivered to you, soberly and vigilantly; and you will perhaps find more to be blamed than I.
因此,那較好的乃是那更樂於被改正的人(只要不缺改正他的人),而非你——倘若你明知而輕蔑地藐視一個迷誤的人,或不知而同樣跟隨那謬誤。所以,對那些寫給你、交付於你的同一批書,你要清醒警醒地細察其中一切;你或許會發現比我所發現的更多當責備之處。
24:162
et quaecumque ibi sunt adprobanda atque laudanda, si quid in eis reuera forsitan ignorabas atque isto disserente didieisti, euidenter profitere quid illud sit, ut de hoc te gratias egisse, non de his quae illic inprobanda tam multa sunt, omnes nouerint, qui uel recitante illo tecum simul audierunt uel eosdem postea libros legerunt, ne in eius ornato eloquio tamquam in pretioso poculo te inuitante etsi non bibente uenenum bibant, si tu quid inde biberis et quid non biberis nesciunt et propter laudem tuam omnia illic bibenda salubriter arbitrantur. quamuis et audire et legere et quae dicta sunt haurire memoria quid est nisi bibere?
And whatever things there are in them that are to be approved and praised, if perchance there was truly anything in them of which you were ignorant and which you learned from this man's discourse, plainly profess what that thing is — so that all may know you gave thanks for this, and not for those things there which are so many and are to be disapproved: all who either heard along with you while he recited, or afterward read those same books — lest, in his ornate eloquence, as in a precious cup, they drink poison at your invitation, though you drink not, if they do not know what you drank thence and what you did not drink, and, for the sake of your praise, deem that all things there are wholesomely to be drunk. And yet, to hear and to read and to draw into memory the things that are said — what is this but to drink?
而在其中凡當認可、當稱讚之事,倘若其中確有你先前所不知、卻從此人論述中學得的,就請明明白白地宣告那是什麼——使凡曾在他誦讀時與你同聽的、或日後讀過那同一批書的人,都知道你所感謝的是這件事,而非那其中如此眾多當受非議之事——免得他們在他華美的辭藻中,如在珍貴的杯中,因你的邀請而飲下毒藥(縱使你自己並未飲下),倘若他們不知你從中飲了什麼、又沒飲什麼,而為著讚美你,便以為那裡的一切都可安然飲下。況且,去聽、去讀、並把所說的話吸入記憶,除了「飲」還是什麼呢?
24:163
sed praedixit dominus de fidelibus suis, quod etsi mortiferum quid biberint, non eis nocebit. ac per hoc qui eum iudicio legunt et secundum regulam fidei adprobanda adprobant et inprobant inprobanda, etiamsi commendant memoriae quae inprobanda dicuntur, nulla uenenata sententiarum prauitate laeduntur. haec me grauitatem et religionem tuam siue mutua siue praeuia caritate monuisse uel commonuisse minime paenitebit domino miserante, quomodolibet accipias, quod tibi praerogandum putaui.
But the Lord foretold concerning His faithful ones, that even if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them. And on this account, those who read him with judgment, and, according to the rule of faith, approve what is to be approved and disapprove what is to be disapproved, even if they commit to memory the things that are to be disapproved, are injured by no poisonous depravity of the sentences. That I have admonished or reminded your gravity and religion of these things, whether out of mutual or preceding charity, I shall in no wise, by the Lord's mercy, repent of — however you may take what I judged ought to be presented to you.
但主曾論到祂的信徒預先說:他們即使喝了什麼致命之物,也絕不受害。因此,凡以判斷力讀他的書、並按信仰的準則認可當認可、否定當否定之事的人,即使把當否定之事記入記憶,也不會被那些言論的毒害邪僻所傷。我以彼此的或先發的仁愛,勸勉並提醒你這位莊重虔敬之人這些事——無論你如何領受我認為理當呈與你的話——靠著主的憐憫,我斷不後悔。
24:164
agam uero uberes ei gratias, de cuius misericordia saluberrimum est fidere, si ab his prauitatibus et erroribus, quos ex libris huius hominis ostendere his litteris potui, alienam atque integram fidem tuam uel inuenerit epistula ista uel fecerit. LIBER TERTIVS. AD VINCENTIVM VICTOREM. Quod mihi ad te scribendum putaui, hoc prius cogites, fili dilectissime Victor, uolo, si te contemnerem, nequaquam id me fuisse facturum. nec ideo tamen humilitate nostra sic abutaris, ut propterea te existimes adprobatum, quia cernis non fuisse contemtum; non enim sequendum, sed corrigendum te diligo. et quoniam nec corrigi posse despero, nolo mireris me contemnere non posse quem diligo.
But I shall render abundant thanks to Him in whose mercy it is most wholesome to trust, if this letter either finds your faith to be estranged and untouched by these depravities and errors which I have been able to point out from this man's books, or makes it so. BOOK THREE. TO VINCENTIUS VICTOR. What I have thought I ought to write to you, I wish you first to consider, most beloved son Victor: that if I despised you, I should by no means have done this. Nor yet on that account should you so abuse our humility as to think yourself thereby approved because you perceive you have not been despised; for I love you not to be followed, but to be corrected. And since I do not despair that you can be corrected, I would not have you wonder that I cannot despise one whom I love.
但我要向那位——信靠祂的憐憫乃最有益的——獻上豐盛的感謝,倘若這封信或發現、或使你的信仰得以脫離、並不沾染我從此人書中所能指出的這些邪僻與謬誤。第三卷。致文森提烏斯·維克多。至愛的兒子維克多啊,我認為理當寫給你的話,我願你先思想這一點:倘若我藐視你,我斷不會這樣做。然而你也不可因此濫用我們的謙卑,以為自己既見未被藐視便算得了認可;因為我愛你,不是要跟隨你,而是要改正你。既然我不絕望於你可被改正,我便願你不必詫異:我不能藐視我所愛的人。
24:165
si enim te, antequam nobis eommunieares, diligere debui, ut esses catholicus, quanto magis te iam communicantem diligere debeo, nc sis nonus hereticus et ut sis talis catholicus, cui resistere nullus possit hereticus! quantum enim adparet ex donis ingenii, quae iam tibi largitus est detis, profecto sapiens eris, si te non esse credideris, atque ut sis ab illo qui facit sapientes pie, subpliciter instanterque poposceris et malueris errore non decipi quam errantium laudibus honorari. Prius me in libris tuis titulus tui nominis pro te sollicitum reddidit.
For if I ought to have loved you, before you were in communion with us, that you might become a Catholic, how much more ought I now to love you, already in communion, that you may not become a new heretic, and that you may be such a Catholic whom no heretic can resist! For, as far as appears from the gifts of talent which God has already lavished upon you, you will assuredly be wise, if you believe yourself not to be so, and if you piously, humbly, and earnestly beg to be made so by Him who makes men wise, and prefer not to be deceived by error rather than to be honoured by the praises of those in error. First, the title of your name in your books made me anxious for you.
因為,倘若在你尚未與我們共融之前,我就當愛你,好叫你成為大公信徒,那麼如今你既已共融,我豈不更當愛你,好叫你不致成為新的異端者,並使你成為一個無異端者能抵擋的大公信徒!因為,就神已豐豐富富賜給你的才智之恩所顯明的看來,你若相信自己並非智慧,並敬虔、卑微、懇切地祈求那使人有智慧的主使你成為智慧,且寧可不被謬誤欺哄,而不願被迷誤者的稱讚所尊榮,那麼你必定會有智慧。首先,你書上你名字的題銜使我為你憂慮。
24:166
cum enim quis esset Vincentius Victor ab eis qui te nouerant et forte aderant requisissem, audiui te fuisse Donatistam uel potius Rogatistam, nuper autem communicasse catholicae. et cum gauderem tantum, quantum de his solemus, quos ab illo errore liberatos esse cognoscimus, immo uero etiam multo amplius, quod ingenium tuum, quo delectabar in litteris tuis, uidebam non remansisse apud aduersarios ueritatis, additum est a referentibus, quod me inter illa gaudia contristaret, ideo te cognominari uoluisse Vincentium, quod Rogati successorem, qui hoc nomine appellatus est, adhuc tamquam magnum et sanctum uirum animo teneas et ob hoc illius nomen tuum uolueris esse cognomen.
For when I had inquired of those who knew you and happened to be present who Vincentius Victor might be, I heard that you had been a Donatist, or rather a Rogatist, but had lately entered into communion with the Catholic Church. And while I rejoiced as much as we are wont over those whom we know to have been freed from that error — nay rather much more, because I saw that your talent, in which I delighted in your writings, had not remained with the adversaries of the truth — there was added by those who reported it something which, amid those joys, saddened me: namely, that you wished to be surnamed 'Vincentius' because you still hold in your mind Rogatus's successor, who was called by this name, as though a great and holy man, and on this account you wished his name to be your surname.
因為當我向那些認識你、又恰在場的人詢問文森提烏斯·維克多是何人時,我聽說你曾是多納圖派、或更確切說是羅加圖派,但近來已加入大公教會的共融。當我像我們慣常那樣,為那些我們知道已從那謬誤中得釋放的人歡喜——不,實在是更加歡喜得多,因我見到你那使我在你文字中喜悅的才智,並未留在真理的仇敵那裡——這時,報信的人卻補充了一件事,在那喜樂之中令我憂傷:即你之所以願自稱「文森提烏斯」,是因你心中至今仍把羅加圖的繼任者——那以此名見稱之人——當作偉大聖潔之人來看待,並因此願以他的名為你的別號。
24:167
nec defuerunt qui dicerent etiam hoc a te fuisse iactatum, quod ipse tibi nescio qua uisione apparuerit atque ad hos conficiendos libros, de quibus tecum agere isto nostro opusculo institui, sic adiuuerit, ut ea tibi scribenda, quantum ad res ipsas rationesque adtinet, ipse dictaret. quod si uerum est, iam te illa dicere potuisse non miror, quae, si patienter auscultes ammonitioni meae et eos libros catholica mente consideres atque pertractes, te dixisse procul dubio paenitebit: ille quippe qui se, sicut eum prodit apostolus, transfigurat in angelum lucis, in eum tibi transfiguratus est, quem tu fuisse uel esse tamquam lucis angelum credis.
Nor were there lacking those who said that this too had been boasted by you: that he himself had appeared to you in some vision or other, and had so aided you in composing these books — concerning which I have undertaken to deal with you in this our little work — that, as far as pertains to the matters themselves and their reasonings, he himself dictated to you the things you were to write. And if this be true, I no longer wonder that you could say those things which — if you patiently hearken to my admonition and consider and thoroughly examine those books with a Catholic mind — you will without doubt repent having said: for he indeed who, as the Apostle exposes him, transforms himself into an angel of light, has transformed himself into him for you, whom you believe to have been or to be, as it were, an angel of light.
也不乏有人說,你甚至曾誇口說:他親自在某種異象中向你顯現,並如此協助你撰成這些書——就是我在我們這本小著中所決意與你討論的那些書——以致就其中的事理與論證而言,是他親自向你口授你所當寫的。若這是真的,我便不再詫異你何以能說出那些話——這些話,倘若你耐心聽從我的勸誡,並以大公之心思量、細究那些書,你無疑將懊悔曾說過:因為那位——正如使徒所揭露的——把自己裝作光明天使的,已為著你把自己裝成他的模樣,就是你所相信曾是、或如今仍是光明天使的那位。
24:168
et eo quidem modo minus ad decipiendos catholicos ualet, quando se non in lucis angelos, sed in hereticos transfigurat; sed te ab eo falli iam eatholieum nollem. crucietur ergo te didicisse quae uera sunt: quanto magis laetatus fuerat se tibi persuasisse quae falsa sunt! ut autem non diligas hominem mortuum, cuius dilectio tibi obesse potest, prodesse illi non potest, hoc breue intuearis ammoneo, quod utique ille non est sanctus et iustus, si tu hereticorum Donatistarum uel Rogatistarum laqueos cuasisti; si autem illum sanctum et iustum arbitraris, tu communicando catholicis interisti. profecto enim tc catholicum fingis, si animo illud es quod erat ille quem diligis.
And indeed in that manner he is less able to deceive Catholics, when he transforms himself not into angels of light, but into heretics; but I would not have you, now a Catholic, be deceived by him. Let it torment you, then, to have learned things that are true — by how much more had he rejoiced to have persuaded you of things that are false! But that you may not love a dead man, whose love can harm you and cannot profit him, I admonish you to consider briefly this: that he is assuredly not holy and just, if you have escaped the snares of the Donatist or Rogatist heretics; but if you deem him holy and just, then by entering into communion with Catholics you have perished. For you assuredly feign yourself a Catholic, if in mind you are what he was whom you love.
誠然,當他把自己裝成的不是光明天使而是異端者時,他便較難欺哄大公信徒;但我不願你這如今已是大公信徒的人被他欺哄。那麼,就讓你因學得了真確之事而痛苦吧——他當初若說服了你相信虛謊之事,該要何等歡喜!但為使你不去愛一個已死之人——愛他對你有害、對他無益——我勸你簡略思想這點:倘若你已逃脫多納圖派或羅加圖派異端者的網羅,那他必定不是聖潔公義的;但你若認他為聖潔公義,那麼你藉與大公信徒共融便已滅亡了。因為你若在心裡仍是你所愛之人昔日的樣子,那你必定是假裝作大公信徒。
24:169
et nosti quam terribiliter scriptum sit, quod spiritus sanctus disciplinae fugiet fictum. si autem ueraciter communicans non te catholicum fingis, quid adhuc hereticum mortuum sic diligis, ut eius uelis te iactare adhuc nomine, cuius iam non teneris errore? nolumus te habere tale cognomentum, tamquam sis heretici mortui monumentum; nolumus talem titulum habere librum tuum, qualem falsum esse dieeremus, si in eius sepulcro legeremus. non enim Vincentium uictorem scimus esse. sed uictum; et utinam fructuose, sicut te uinei nolumus ueritate!
And you know how terribly it is written, that the Holy Spirit of discipline will flee the deceitful. But if, communicating truly, you do not feign yourself a Catholic, why do you still so love a dead heretic that you wish still to boast yourself of the name of him by whose error you are no longer held? We do not wish you to have such a surname, as though you were the monument of a dead heretic; we do not wish your book to bear such a title as we should call false, if we read it on his tomb. For we do not know that Vincentius is a victor (victorem), but vanquished (victum); and would that it were fruitfully so, even as we do not wish you to be vanquished by the truth!
你也知道經上寫得何等可畏:管教的聖靈必躲避那詭詐的人。但你若確實在共融、並非假裝作大公信徒,你為何還如此愛一個已死的異端者,以致仍願以他的名自誇——你既已不再被他的謬誤所轄制?我們不願你擁有這樣的別號,彷彿你是一個已死異端者的紀念碑;我們不願你的書冠以這樣的題銜——若我們在他墳上讀到,我們必稱它為虛假。因為據我們所知,文森提烏斯(意即「得勝者」)並非得勝者(victor),而是被征服者(victum);但願這被征服是有益的,正如我們不願你被真理所征服一樣!
24:170
astute autem putaris et callide, cum libros tuos, quos credi cupis illo tibi reuelante dictatos, appellas Vineentii Victoris, non tam Vincentium te quam illum uoeari noluisse Victorem, uelut tibi reuelando quae scriberes uicisset errorem. ut quid tibi ista, fili? esto potius uerus, non fictus catholicus, ne te fugiat spiritus sanctus et nihil tibi possit prodesse Vincentius. in quem se ad te fallendum transfigurauit malignissimus spiritus; eius quippe sunt illa qualibet tibi fraude persuasa. quae si ammonitus pia humilitate et catholica pace correxeris, errores fuisse iudicabuntur studiosissimi iuuenis emendari potius quam in eis remanere cupientis.
But you supposed it clever and cunning that, when you call your books — which you wish to be believed dictated by his revelation to you — the books of Vincentius Victor, you meant that not so much you, Vincentius, as he wished to be called Victor, as though, by revealing to you what you should write, he had conquered error. To what end are these things to you, my son? Be rather a true, not a feigned, Catholic, lest the Holy Spirit flee you and Vincentius be able to profit you nothing — he into whom the most malignant spirit transformed himself to deceive you; for those things persuaded to you by whatever fraud are his. And if, being admonished, you correct these with pious humility and Catholic peace, they will be judged to have been the errors of a most studious young man wishing rather to be amended than to remain in them.
但你自以為精明狡黠:當你把你的書——你希望人相信是他向你啟示口授的——稱作文森提烏斯·維克多的書時,你的意思並非說你文森提烏斯得勝,而是說他願被稱為維克多(得勝者),彷彿他藉向你啟示你當寫的話,便勝過了謬誤。我兒啊,這些對你有何用處?寧可作一個真實而非假裝的大公信徒,免得聖靈躲避你,而文森提烏斯對你毫無益處——就是那最惡毒的靈為欺哄你而裝成他的樣子;因為那些藉種種詭詐向你灌輸的事,都是他的。你若受了勸誡,以敬虔的謙卑與大公的和平改正這些,它們便將被判為一個最好學的青年——他寧願被改正而不願固守其中——所犯的謬誤。
24:171
si autem pro eis tibi etiam contentionem - quod absit.! — persuaserit peruicacem, iam tamquam heretica dogmata cum suo necesse erit auctore damnari, cura scilicet pastorali et medicinali, priusquam per incautum uulgus serpant dira contagia, cum dilectionis non ueritate, sed nomine salubris neglegitur disciplina. Si quaeris quaenam illa sint, poteris quidem legere mea scripta ad fratres nostros, Renatum dei senium et presbyterum Petrum, ad quem tu eadem ipsa, de quibus agimus, scribenda existimasti eius, ut asseris, uoluntati petentis obtemperans . dabunt enim tibi ut legas procul dubio, si uolueris, et ingerent etiam non petenti.
But if, on their behalf, he has persuaded you even to obstinate contention — which God forbid! — then, as heretical dogmas, they will needs be condemned together with their author, with pastoral and medicinal care, that is, before the dire contagions creep through the incautious multitude, when discipline is neglected not through the truth of love but under its name — a wholesome discipline. If you ask what those things are, you can indeed read my writings to our brethren, Renatus the servant of God and Peter the presbyter, to whom you thought fit to write these very things of which we treat — obeying, as you assert, the will of him who requested it. For they will without doubt give you them to read, if you wish, and will even press them upon you unasked.
但倘若他為著這些事,甚至說服你陷入頑固的爭辯——這是斷斷不可的!——那麼,作為異端教條,它們就必得連同其倡導者一同被定罪,帶著牧養與醫治的關懷,即在那可怕的沾染藉不謹慎的群眾蔓延之前——當有益的管教不是憑愛的真實、而僅托愛之名被忽視時。你若問那些事是什麼,你確可讀我寫給我們弟兄的信,即神的僕人雷納圖斯與長老彼得——你認為理當把我們所論的這些事寫給他們,據你所稱,是順從那請求者的心意。因為他們若你願意,無疑會把這些信給你讀,甚至你不求,也會塞給你。
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uerum tamen etiam hic quae maxime in eisdem libris tuis et in fide tua emendari cupiam non tacebo. primum est, quod \'animam non ita uis a deo esse factam, ut eam ex nihilo fecerit, sed ex semet ipso\'. ubi non putas esse consequens, ut naturae sit dei, quia profecto quam sit impium et ipse cognoscis. qua impietate ut careas, ita oportet ut dicas animae auctorem deum, ut ab illo facta sit, non de illo. quod enim de illo est, sicut unigenitus filius, eiusdem naturae cuius et ille est. ut autem anima eiusdem naturae non sit cuius est ille, facta est quidem ab illo, sed non de illo. aut ergo dic unde aut fatere de nihilo. quid est quod dicis \'eam particulam esse quandam halitus naturae dei\'?
Nevertheless, even here I will not keep silent about the things which I most desire to be amended in those same books of yours and in your faith. The first is, that 'you will not have the soul so made by God that He made it out of nothing, but out of Himself.' Here you do not think it follows that it is of the nature of God — because you yourself indeed recognize how impious that would be. That you may be free from this impiety, you must so speak of God as the author of the soul that it was made by Him, not out of Him. For that which is out of Him, as the only-begotten Son, is of the same nature of which He also is. But that the soul may not be of the same nature of which He is, it was indeed made by Him, but not out of Him. Either therefore say out of what, or confess out of nothing. What is it that you say, 'that it is a certain particle of the breath of God's nature'?
然而,即便在此,我也不會對那些我最切望在你同一批書中、並在你信仰中得以改正之事保持緘默。第一是:「你不肯承認靈魂是神從無中造出,而說是出於祂自己。」在此,你不認為由此可推出靈魂具有神的本性——因為你自己確也認識到那將是何等不敬。為使你脫離這不敬,你就當如此稱神為靈魂的創造者:靈魂是被祂所造,而非出於祂。因為凡出於祂的,如獨生子,便與祂同具一樣的本性。但為使靈魂不與祂同具一樣的本性,靈魂固然是被祂所造,卻非出於祂。所以你要嘛說出它是出於什麼,要嘛承認它是出於無。你所說「它是神本性之氣息的某一微粒」,這究竟是什麼意思?
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numquidnam ipsum halitum naturae dei, cuius halitus est ista particula, negas eiusdem cuius deus est esse naturae? si negas, ergo de nihilo et istum halitum fecit deus, cuius halitus animam uis esse particulam. aut si non de nihilo, dic unde illum fecerit deus. si de se ipso, ergo ipse est — quod absit! — materies operis sui. sed dicis: cum de se ipso halitum uel flatum facit, ipse integer manet; quasi non et ignis lucernae integer maneat, cum de illo altera accenditur, et tamen eiusdem, non alterius sit naturae. Sed, inquis, cum a nobis uter inflatur, non aliqua portio nostrae naturae uel qualitatis infunditur.
Do you perchance deny that the very breath of God's nature, whose breath this particle is, is of the same nature of which God is? If you deny it, then out of nothing God made even this breath also, of which you would have the soul to be a particle. Or if not out of nothing, say out of what God made it. If out of Himself, then He Himself is — which God forbid! — the material of His own work. But you say: when out of Himself He makes a breath or blast, He Himself remains whole; as though the fire of a lamp too did not remain whole, when from it another is kindled, and yet is of the same, not another, nature. But, you say, when a wineskin is inflated by us, no portion of our nature or quality is infused.
你莫非否認神本性的那氣息本身——這微粒既是這氣息的微粒——與神同具一樣的本性?你若否認,那麼神連這氣息也是從無中造出,而你卻要靈魂作這氣息的微粒。或者若非從無中,那就說神是從什麼造出它。若是出於祂自己,那麼祂自己便是——這是斷斷不可的!——祂自己工作的材料。但你說:當祂出於自己造出一口氣或一陣風時,祂自己仍保持完整;彷彿燈的火焰也不是保持完整似的——當由它點燃另一團火焰,而那火焰仍與它同屬一樣、而非另一樣的本性。但你說:當我們給皮囊充氣時,並沒有我們本性或性質的任何部分注入其中。
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cum hoc ipsum, quod spiritu hausto uter inpletus extenditur, sine aliqua nostri deminutione geratur . his uerbis tuis adhuc addis et inmoraris et inculcas similitudinem quasi necessariam, qua intellegamus quomodo deus sine suae naturae aliquo detrimento et de se ipso animam faciat et facta de ipso non sit quod ipso. dicis enim: numquid animae nostrae est portio utris inflatio aut homines fingimus cum utres inflamus aut detrimentum nostri in aliquo patimur, cum flatus nostros in diuersa partimur ? sed nullum patimur detrimentum.
since this very thing, that the wineskin, filled with the drawn-in breath, is distended, is done without any diminution of ourselves. To these words of yours you still add and dwell upon and press home a similitude as though necessary, whereby we may understand how God, without any detriment to His own nature, both makes the soul out of Himself, and yet that which is made out of Him is not what He is. For you say: Is the inflation of a wineskin a portion of our soul? Or do we fashion men when we inflate wineskins? Or do we suffer any detriment to ourselves, when we distribute our blasts into various things? But we suffer no detriment,
因為這件事本身——即皮囊因吸入的氣充滿而脹大——乃是在我們自身毫無虧損之下完成的。對你這些話,你還進一步添加、盤桓、並著力灌輸一個彷彿必要的比喻,好使我們明白:神如何在祂本性毫無損害之下,既出於自己造出靈魂,而那出於祂所造的又不是祂自己。因為你說:皮囊的充氣豈是我們靈魂的一部分?或我們給皮囊充氣時豈是在造人?或我們把我們的吹氣分送到各樣東西時豈受了自身的任何虧損?但我們並不受虧損,
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cum ex nobis ad aliquid transmittimus flatum, et manente in nobis plena flatus proprii qualitate et integra quantitate nullum nos meminimus damnum ex utris inflatione sentire . ista similitudine, quae satis elegans et congruens tibi uidetur, quantum fallaris adtende. deum quippe dicis incorporeum non de nihilo a se factam, sed de se ipso animam sufflare corpoream, cum flatum nos licet corporeum, subtiliorem tamen emittamus, quam nostra sunt corpora, nec eum de anima nostra. sed de hoc aere per uiscera corporis exhalemus. pulmones quippe anima, cuius nutu mouentur etiam cetera corporis membra, ad hunc aerium spiritum ducendum atque reddendum sicut folles mouet.
when out of ourselves we transmit a blast to something, and, the full quality and entire quantity of our own breath remaining in us, we remember suffering no loss from the inflation of a wineskin. Consider how greatly you are deceived by this similitude, which seems to you elegant and fitting enough. For you say that God, being incorporeal, breathes forth the soul as corporeal, made not out of nothing but out of Himself — whereas we emit a blast which, though corporeal, is nevertheless subtler than our bodies are, and that not out of our soul but out of this air we exhale through the organs of the body. For the lungs — which the soul moves (at whose nod the other members of the body also are moved) — the soul moves like bellows to draw in and give back this airy breath.
當我們把一陣氣息從自己身上傳送到某物時,我們自己那氣息的完全性質與整全份量既仍留在我們裡面,我們便記得並未因給皮囊充氣而受任何損失。且察看你被這個在你看來夠雅致、夠貼切的比喻欺哄得多深。因為你說神——本是無形體的——卻吹出有形體的靈魂,不是從無中,而是出於祂自己;然而我們所吹出的氣息,雖是有形體的,卻比我們的身體更精微,而且不是出於我們的靈魂,而是出於我們藉身體器官所呼出的這空氣。因為肺——靈魂使它運動(連身體其餘的肢體也隨靈魂的指令而動)——靈魂正如推動風箱一般推動它,以吸入並吐出這氣態的呼吸。
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praeter enim alimenta solida et fluxa, unde est cibus et potus, hoc tertium nobis deus alimentum circumfudit aurarum. quas ita carpimus, ut sine cibo et potu diu esse possimus. sine hoc autem alimento tertio, quod aura nobis. quae undique circumsistit, spirantibus et respirantibus exhibet, nec exiguo temporis spatio possumus uiuere.
For besides the solid and liquid nourishments, whence come food and drink, God has surrounded us with this third nourishment of the breezes. These we so take in that we can be a long while without food and drink; but without this third nourishment, which the air that stands round us on every side furnishes to us as we breathe in and breathe out, we cannot live even for a brief space of time.
因為除了固體與液體的養分——食物與飲料即由此而來——神還以這第三種養分,就是空氣,環繞了我們。這養分我們如此攝取,以致我們可以許久不進飲食;但若沒有這第三種養分——就是那從四面圍繞我們的空氣,在我們吸氣呼氣時供給我們的——我們連片刻也不能存活。
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sicut autem cibus et potus non solum ingerendi, uerum etiam per meatus ad hoc institutos egerendi sunt, ne utroque laedant, uel non intrando uel non exeundo, ita hoc tertium flabile alimentum quia in nobis manere non sinitur nec inmorando corrumpitur, sed egeritur mox ut ingeritur, non alios, sed eosdem meatus, id est os aut nares aut utrumque, et qua intraret et qua exiret, accepit. In te ipso tibi proba ipse quod dico. emitte spiritum flando et uide utrum dures, si non receperis; recipe respirando et uide quas patiaris angustias, si non rursus emiseris. hoc igitur facimus. quando utrem, sicut dicis, inflamus, quod facimus ut uiuamus;
But just as food and drink are not only to be taken in, but also to be discharged through the passages appointed for this, lest they injure by either not entering or not leaving, so this third airy nourishment, because it is not allowed to remain in us nor is corrupted by lingering, but is discharged as soon as it is taken in, has received not other but the same passages — that is, the mouth or the nostrils or both — by which both to enter and to depart. Prove in your own self what I say. Send forth breath by blowing, and see whether you last, if you do not take it back; take it back by breathing in, and see what straits you suffer, if you do not again send it forth. This, then, is what we do when we inflate a wineskin, as you say — which we do in order to live;
但正如飲食不僅要攝入,也要藉為此設立的通道排出,免得它們或因不入、或因不出而致傷害,同樣,這第三種氣態的養分,因不容它留在我們裡面,也不因滯留而腐壞,而是一經攝入便隨即排出,就領受了並非別的、而是同樣的通道——即口、或鼻孔、或二者——由此既進入也離去。你在自己身上驗證我所說的吧。吹氣把氣息送出,看你若不把它收回能否持久;再吸氣把它收回,看你若不再把它送出會受何等窘迫。那麼,這正是我們給皮囊充氣時所做的(如你所言)——我們這樣做乃是為了活命;
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nisi quod tunc paulo plus ducimus, ut paulo plus emittamus, ut spiritum flabilem, id est uentum in utrem inplendum et extendendum non quiete spirandi et respirandi, sed anhelandi impetu coartemus. quomodo ergo dicis: nullum patimur detrimentum, cum ex nobis ad aliquid transmittimus flatum, et manente in nobis plena flatus proprii qualitate et integra quantitate nullum nos meminimus damnum ex utris inflatione sentire ? apparet te, fili, si aliquando utrem inflasti, non aduertisse quid egeris. quod enim sufflando amittis, statim recipiendo non sentis.
except that then we draw in a little more, in order to send out a little more, so as to compress the blowable breath — that is, wind — for filling and distending the wineskin, not by the quiet of breathing in and out, but by the impetus of panting. How then do you say: We suffer no detriment, when out of ourselves we transmit a blast to something, and, the full quality and entire quantity of our own breath remaining in us, we remember suffering no loss from the inflation of a wineskin? It is evident, my son, that if you ever did inflate a wineskin, you did not notice what you were doing. For what you lose by blowing out, you do not feel by immediately taking back.
只不過那時我們吸得稍多,好呼出稍多,以致把那可吹之氣——即風——加以壓縮,用以充滿並脹起皮囊,這不是靠平靜地吸氣呼氣,而是靠喘息的猛力。那麼你怎能說:當我們把一陣氣息從自己身上傳送到某物、而我們自己那氣息的完全性質與整全份量既仍留在我們裡面,我們便記得並未因給皮囊充氣而受任何損失呢?我兒啊,顯然若你曾給皮囊充氣,你並未察覺自己所做的。因為你吹出時所失去的,你藉隨即收回而感覺不到。
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sed potes hoc facillime discere, si hoc potius uelis quam tua dicta, quia iam dicta sunt, non inflans utrem, sed inflatus ipse defendere et auditores tuos, quos ueris rebus aedificare debes, inani strepitu uentosi sermonis inflare. in hac causa non te ad magistrum mitto nisi ad te ipsum. emitte flatum in utrem et os claude continuo naresque detine et sic saltem senti uerum esse quod dico. eum enim coeperis angustias intolerabiles perpeti, quid cupies ore aperto naribusque recipere, si, quando sufflasti, nihil te existimas amisisse? uide in quo malo sis, nisi hauriendo resumas quod effundendo reddideras;
But you can most easily learn this, if you would rather do so than defend your own words — because they have already been spoken — not by inflating a wineskin but yourself inflated, and inflate your hearers, whom you ought to build up with true things, with the empty noise of windy speech. In this matter I send you not to a master but to yourself. Send forth breath into a wineskin, and close your mouth at once and hold your nostrils, and thus at least feel that what I say is true. For when you begin to suffer intolerable straits, what will you long to take in through open mouth and nostrils, if, when you blew, you think you lost nothing? See in what evil you are, unless by drawing in you resume what by pouring out you had given back;
但你若寧願如此行、而不願辯護你自己已說出的話(因它們已經說了),你便能極輕易地學到這點:不是給皮囊充氣,而是你自己被氣充脹,並以浮誇言辭的空洞喧囂去給你的聽眾充氣——你本當以真確之事造就他們。在這事上,我不打發你去找師傅,而是打發你去找你自己。往皮囊裡送氣,隨即閉口捏住鼻孔,這樣至少感受一下我所說的是真的。因為當你開始受不可忍的窘迫時,你若以為吹氣時毫無所失,那你將何等渴望張口張鼻孔把氣吸入?看你身處何等困境——除非你藉吸入而重得你藉吐出所交還的;
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uide, illa insufflatio qualia damna et detrimenta fecisset, nisi ea respiratio reparasset. nisi enim quod inpenderis ad utrem implendum, ad te itidem alendum aditu patefacto redierit, quid tibi non solum unde illum inflare, sed unde tu possis uiuere remanebit?
see what damages and detriments that inflation would have caused, had not that respiration repaired them. For unless what you had expended in filling the wineskin returned to you likewise for your own sustenance, an entrance being laid open, what would remain to you — not only wherewith to inflate it, but wherewith you yourself might live?
看那充氣本會造成何等的損害與虧損,倘若那呼吸不曾加以修補。因為除非你在充滿皮囊上所耗費的,藉一條敞開的通道同樣回到你身上以供你自己的維持,那麼你還剩下什麼——不僅是用以給皮囊充氣的,更是使你自己能活命的?
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Haec debuisti considerare, cum scriberes, et non ista similitudine utrium inflatorum uel inflandorum introducere nobis deum aut ex alia natura, quae iam erat, sicut nos ex isto circumfuso aere flatum facimus, animas flare aut certe, quod et abhorret ab ista similitudine et abundat impietate, deum sine ullo quidem sui detrimento, sed tamen de sua natura mutabile aliquid uel proferre uel, quod est peius, tamquam sui operis materies ipse sit, facere.
These things you ought to have considered when you were writing, and not to have introduced to us, by this similitude of inflated or to-be-inflated wineskins, a God who either — out of another nature which already existed, just as we make a blast out of this surrounding air — breathes forth souls; or else, what both shrinks from that similitude and abounds in impiety, a God who, without indeed any detriment to Himself, yet out of His own nature either brings forth something mutable, or, what is worse, is Himself, as it were, the material of His own work.
這些事你在寫作時本當思量,而不當藉這充氣或待充氣皮囊的比喻,向我們引入這樣一位神:祂或是——出於另一已然存在的本性,正如我們出於這周圍的空氣造出一陣氣——吹出靈魂;或者,這既與那比喻相悖、又充滿不敬——一位神,祂雖確實對自己毫無損害,卻出於祂自己的本性,或帶出某種可變之物,或更糟的是,祂自己彷彿就是祂自己工作的材料。
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ut ergo aliquam de nostro flatu ad hanc rem adhibeamus similitudinem, id potius est credendum, quod, sicut nos non de natura nostra, sed quia omnipotentes non sumus, de isto aere circumfuso quem trahimus et reddimus, cum spiramus et respiramus, flatum facimus quando sufflamus nec uiuentem nec sentientem, quamuis nos uiuamus atque sentiamus, ita deum non de sua natura, sed quia sic omnipotens est, ut possit creare quod uult, etiam ex eo quod omnino non est. id est de nihilo, flatum facere posse uiuentem atque sentientem, sed plane cum sit inmutabilis ipse mutabilem.
In order, therefore, that we may apply some similitude from our own blast to this matter, this rather is to be believed: that, just as we — not out of our nature, but because we are not omnipotent — make out of this surrounding air, which we draw in and give back as we breathe in and breathe out, a blast when we blow, one that neither lives nor feels, although we ourselves live and feel; so God — not out of His own nature, but because He is so omnipotent that He can create what He wills even out of that which is absolutely not, that is, out of nothing — can make a blast that both lives and feels, yet plainly, since He Himself is immutable, one that is mutable.
因此,為要從我們自己的吹氣中就此事取一比喻,我們寧當相信這樣:正如我們——不是出於我們的本性,而是因我們並非全能——在吹氣時,出於這周圍的空氣(就是我們吸氣呼氣時所吸入吐出的),造出一陣既不活也不覺的氣,儘管我們自己是又活又覺的;照樣,神——不是出於祂自己的本性,而是因祂如此全能,以致祂能從那絕對不存在之物、即從無中,創造祂所願的——能造出一陣既活又覺的氣,只是顯然,既然祂自己是不可變的,那氣便是可變的。
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Quid autem sibi uult, quod huic similitudini addendum putasti ad exemplum de beato Heliseo, quia flando in eius faciem mortuum suscitauerit ? itane tu flatum Helisei factum fuisse putas animam pueri? non usque adeo te a uero exorbitare crediderim. si ergo anima illa, quae uiuenti ablata fuerat ut moreretur, eadem ipsa illi ut reuiuesceret reddita est, quid ad rem pertinet quod dixisti \'nihil Heliseo fuisse deminutum\', quasi aliquid ab illo transisse, unde uiueret, credatur in puerum? quod si propterea dictum est, quia flauit et integer mansit. quid opus erat ut hoc de Heliseo mortuum resuscitante diceres, quod de quouis flante et neminem suscitante dicere nihilominus posses?
But what do you mean by what you thought should be added to this similitude as an example from the blessed Elisha, because by blowing into his face he raised the dead? Do you thus suppose that the breath of Elisha became the soul of the boy? I would not believe you have strayed so far from the truth. If, then, that same soul, which had been taken away from the living one that he might die, was restored to him that he might revive, what does it pertain to the matter that you said 'nothing was diminished from Elisha,' as though something passed from him, whence the boy might live, into the boy? But if it was said on this account, because he blew and remained whole, what need was there that you should say this of Elisha raising the dead, which you could nonetheless say of anyone blowing and raising no one?
但你認為當把有福的以利沙為例加在這比喻上——因他向那孩子的臉吹氣便使死者復活——你這是什麼意思?你竟這樣以為以利沙的吹氣成了那孩子的靈魂嗎?我不願相信你偏離真理到這地步。那麼,倘若那從活人身上取走以致他死去的同一靈魂,又還給了他以致他復活,那你說「以利沙毫無虧損」與這事有何相干——彷彿有某物從他身上、就是那孩子藉以得生的,過到了那孩子裡面?但若這話是因他吹了氣卻仍保持完整而說的,那你又何必就以利沙使死者復活來說這話——這話你分明也可就任何吹氣而不使人復活的人來說?
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incaute sane locutus es — cum absit, ut credas flatum Helisei factum fuisse reuiuescentis animam pueri -, quod primum dei factum ab istius prophetae facto hoc distare noluisti. quod ille semel, iste ter flauerit. dixisti quippe Heliseum in faciem defuncti filii illius Sunamitis ad instar primaeuae originis insufflasse: et cum emortua membra, inquis, in uigorem pristinum redanimata per halitum prophetae diuina uirtus accenderet, nihil Heliseo fuerit imminutum, per cuius flatum corpus emortuum rediuiuam animam recepit et spiritum, nisi quod semel dominus in faciem hominis insufflauit, et uixit, tertio Heliseus in faciem mortui aspirauit, et reuixit .
You have indeed spoken incautiously — though far be it that you should believe the breath of Elisha became the soul of the reviving boy — in that you would not have God's first act differ from this act of the prophet in anything except that God blew once, but Elisha thrice. For you said that Elisha breathed into the face of the deceased son of that Shunammite after the manner of the primeval origin: 'And when,' you say, 'the divine power kindled the dead members, re-animated into their former vigour, through the prophet's breath, nothing was diminished from Elisha, through whose blast the dead body received a reviving soul and spirit — except that once the Lord breathed into the face of man, and he lived, whereas thrice Elisha breathed into the face of the dead, and he revived.'
你確實說得不謹慎——雖然但願你絕不至相信以利沙的吹氣成了那復活孩子的靈魂——因為你竟不肯讓神起初的作為與先知這作為有任何不同,除了神吹了一次,而以利沙吹了三次。因為你說以利沙照最初創造的樣式向那書念婦人已故兒子的臉吹氣:你說:「當神的大能藉先知的吹氣,把那死去的肢體重新賦予生命、恢復到原先的活力時,以利沙毫無虧損——那死屍藉他的吹氣領受了復甦的靈魂與氣息——只不過主一次向人的臉吹氣,人便活了,而以利沙三次向死者的臉吹氣,他才復活。」
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sic sonant tua uerba ista, quasi flandi tantum numerus interfuerit, ut non quod fecit deus etiam propheta fecisse credatur. et hoc ergo emendandum est. tam multum quippe interfuit inter illud opus dei et hoc Helisei, ut ille flauerit flatum uitae, quo fieret homo in animam uiuentem, iste autem flauerit flatum neque sentientem neque uiuentem, sed aliquid significandi gratia figurantem, denique ut puer iste rcuiuesceret, non eum animando propheta fecit. sed eum amando ut hoc deus faceret impetrauit. quod autem illum ter flasse dicis, aut memoria, sicut fieri solet, aut mendositas codicis te fefellit. quid plura?
Your words there sound as though only the number of blowings made a difference, so that what God did the prophet also is believed to have done. And this therefore must be amended. For there was so great a difference between that work of God and this of Elisha, that God blew the breath of life, whereby man became a living soul, while Elisha blew a breath neither feeling nor living, but figuring something for the sake of signification; and finally, that this boy might revive, the prophet did not do it by animating him, but obtained by loving that God should do it. But as to your saying that he blew thrice, either your memory, as often happens, or a fault of the manuscript deceived you. What need of more?
你那裡的話聽來彷彿只有吹氣的次數有所分別,以致人以為神所做的先知也做了。因此這也必須改正。因為神那作為與以利沙這作為之間有如此大的分別:神吹的是生命之氣,人便藉此成了活的靈魂;而以利沙所吹的氣既不覺也不活,只是為表徵之故而象徵著某事;並且到頭來,這孩子之所以復活,並非先知以賦予生命之法所致,而是他藉著愛求得神成就此事。至於你說他吹了三次,那要嘛是你的記憶(如常有的那樣)欺哄了你,要嘛是抄本的訛誤欺哄了你。何必多言?
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non sunt tibi ad hoc astruendum aliqua exempla et argumenta quaerenda, sed potius emendanda et mutanda sententia. noli ergo credere, noli dicere. noli docere \'quod non de nihilo, sed de sua natura fecerit animam deus\', si uis esse catholicus. Noli credere nec dicere nec docere \'per infinitum tempus atque ita semper deum animas dare, sicut semper est ipse qui dat\', si uis esse catholicus. erit enim tempus, quando non dabit animas deus, cum tamen esse ipse non desinat. poterat quidem sic accipi quod aisti \'semper dat\', utintellegeretur sine cessatione dare quamdiu homines generant et generantur, sicut dictum est de quibusdam:
You need not seek any examples and arguments for establishing this, but rather your opinion is to be amended and changed. Do not therefore believe, do not say, do not teach 'that God made the soul not out of nothing, but out of His own nature,' if you wish to be a Catholic. Do not believe, nor say, nor teach 'that God gives souls through infinite time and thus always, just as He Himself is always who gives,' if you wish to be a Catholic. For there will be a time when God will not give souls, although He Himself does not cease to be. What you said, 'He always gives,' could indeed be so taken as to be understood as giving without cessation as long as men beget and are begotten, just as it is said of certain persons:
你不必為證立此事尋求任何例證與論據,倒是你的意見必須加以改正、更改。所以,你若願作大公信徒,就不要相信、不要說、不要教導「神造靈魂不是從無中,而是出於祂自己的本性」。你若願作大公信徒,就不要相信、也不要說、也不要教導「神在無盡的時間中、並如此永遠地賜予靈魂,正如那賜予者祂自己永遠常存」。因為必有一時,神不再賜予靈魂,儘管祂自己並不止息存在。你所說的「祂常賜予」,本可如此領會:即理解為只要人還生育、還被生育,祂就不止息地賜予,正如經上論到某些人所說的:
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semper discentes et ad ueritatis scientiam numquam peruenientes; non enim sic accipitur quod hic positum est \'semper\' uelut numquam desinant discere, cum procul dubio non discant, quando in hoc corpore destiterint uiuere uel cum coeperint supplicio gehennalis ignis ardere. sed tu non permisisti sic accipi uerbum tuum, cum dixisti \'semper dat\', quando quidem id ad infinitum tempus reuocandum putasti. et parum hoc fuit; sed tamquam quaereretur abs te, ut apertius explicares quomodo dixeris \'semper dat\\ addidisti atque dixisti: sicut semper est ipse qui dat . hoc sana et catholica fides omnino condemnat. absit enim, ut credamus quod animas deus semper dat, sicut semper est ipse qui dat.
'always learning, and never coming to the knowledge of the truth'; for what is here placed, 'always,' is not so taken as though they should never cease learning — since without doubt they do not learn, when they have ceased to live in this body, or when they have begun to burn in the punishment of hell-fire. But you did not permit your word to be so taken, when you said 'He always gives,' since indeed you thought it must be referred to infinite time. And that was too little; but as though it were asked of you, that you might more openly explain how you had said 'He always gives,' you added and said: 'just as He Himself is always who gives.' This the sound and Catholic faith wholly condemns. For far be it that we should believe that God always gives souls, just as He Himself always is who gives.
「常常學習,終久不能明白真道」;因為此處所置的「常常」,並非取作彷彿他們永不止息學習之意——因無疑他們並不學習,一旦他們止息了在此身體中的存活,或一旦他們開始在地獄之火的刑罰中焚燒。但你並不容你的話被如此領會,因你說「祂常賜予」時,確是認為這必須指向無盡的時間。這還嫌不足;彷彿有人問你、要你更明白地解釋你如何說「祂常賜予」,你便補充說:「正如那賜予者祂自己永遠常存。」這是純正大公的信仰所全然定罪的。因為斷不可讓我們相信:神永遠賜予靈魂,正如那賜予者祂自己永遠常存。
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sic enim semper est ipse, ut numquam esse desistat; animas autem non semper dabit, sed eas finito generationis saeculo non iam nascentibus quibus dandae sunt procul dubio dare cessabit. Noli credere nec dicere nec docere \'animam meritum aliquod perdidisse per carnem, tamquam boni meriti fuerit ante carnem ̒ , si uis esse catholicus. nondum enim natos apostolus nihil egisse dicit boni uel mali; unde ergo anima potuit ante carnem habere meritum bonum, ubi nihil egerat boni ? an forte audebis eam dicere ante carnem bene uixisse, quam non potes ostendere uel fuisse? quomodo ergo dicis:
For He Himself always is in such a way that He never ceases to be; but souls He will not always give, but, the age of generation being ended, He will without doubt cease to give them to those not now being born, to whom they were to be given. Do not believe, nor say, nor teach 'that the soul lost some merit through the flesh, as though it were of good merit before the flesh,' if you wish to be a Catholic. For the Apostle says that those not yet born did nothing good or evil; whence, then, could the soul have merit before the flesh, where it had done nothing good? Or will you perchance dare to say that it lived well before the flesh, when you cannot even show that it existed? How, then, do you say:
因為祂自己乃是如此常存,以致祂永不止息存在;但靈魂祂並不永遠賜予,而是當生育的世代終結時,祂無疑將止息把靈魂賜給那些不再出生、本當得靈魂的人。你若願作大公信徒,就不要相信、也不要說、也不要教導「靈魂藉肉體失去了某種功德,彷彿它在肉體之前有善的功德」。因為使徒說那尚未出生的人未曾行善也未曾作惡;那麼,靈魂在肉體之前何從能有功德,那時它並未行過任何善?或者你竟敢說它在肉體之前活得良善——你連它曾否存在都無法證明?那麼你怎能說:
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non uis animam ex carne peccati contrahere ualetudinem, ad quam uicissim sanctificationem uideas transire per carnem, ut per ipsam reparet statum, per quam perdiderat meritum ? haec dogmata, quibus putatur anima ante carnem habuisse aliquem statum bonum et meritum bonum, si forte nescis, exceptis antiquis exceptis etiam recentius in Priscillianistis iam catholica damnauit ecclesia. Noli credere nec dicere nec docere \'animam per carnem reparare habitudinem priscam et per illam renasci, per quam meruerat inquinari\', si uis esse catholicus. ut enim omittam in eo quod dixisti:
Do you not wish the soul to contract its infirmity from the flesh of sin, so that you might see sanctification pass over to it in turn through the flesh, so that through that very flesh it may restore the condition through which it had lost its worth? These teachings, by which the soul is supposed to have possessed some good condition and good desert before the flesh — in case you do not know it — the Catholic Church has already condemned, apart from the ancients, and more recently also in the Priscillianists. Do not believe, nor say, nor teach that "the soul restores its former state through the flesh and is reborn through that same flesh by which it had deserved to be defiled," if you wish to be a Catholic. For, to pass over what you said:
你豈不願靈魂從罪的肉體招來衰弱,好使你看見成聖反過來藉著肉體臨到靈魂,使靈魂藉著那使它喪失功德的肉體重建自身的狀態嗎?這些教義主張靈魂在進入肉體之前曾擁有某種善的狀態與善的功德——倘若你不曉得,大公教會早已定其為異端,不但古人如此,近來在普里西利安派中亦然。你若要作大公信徒,切莫相信、切莫言說、切莫教導說:「靈魂藉著肉體重建其舊有的境況,並藉那使它應受玷污的肉體重生。」因為,姑且撇開你所說的話:
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merito ergo per carnem priscam reparat habitudinem, quam uisa fuerat paulisper amisisse per carnem, ut per eam incipiat renasci, per quam meruerat inquinari, tam in proximo te ipsum tibi ipsi exstitisse contrarium, ut homo qui paulo ante dixeras animam per carnem reparare statum per quam perdiderat meritum — ubi nullo modo potest nisi bonum meritum intellegi, quod uis utique per carnem in baptismate reparari —, rursus eam diceres inquir.ari meruisse per carnem — ubi iam non potest bonum, sed malum meritum intellegi —, ut ergo id omittam, prorsus uel bonum uel malum meritum credere habuisse animam ante carnem catholicum non est.
"By its desert, therefore, the soul restores through the flesh the former state which it had seemed for a little while to have lost through the flesh, so that through it the soul may begin to be reborn, through which it had deserved to be defiled" — that in this most immediate point you set yourself against your very self, so that you, a man who had a little before said that the soul restores through the flesh the state through which it had lost its worth — where in no way can anything but good desert be understood, which you certainly wish to be restored through the flesh in baptism — should again say that the soul deserved to be defiled through the flesh, where now not good but evil desert can be understood: so, to pass over this too, to believe outright that the soul possessed either good or evil desert before the flesh is not Catholic.
「所以靈魂憑其功德藉著肉體重建那似乎曾一度藉肉體喪失的舊有狀態,好使它藉著那使它應受玷污的肉體重新開始重生」——在這最緊接的一點上,你竟自相矛盾。你這人剛才說靈魂藉著肉體重建那使它喪失功德的狀態——此處除了善的功德別無可解,而你當然願這功德在洗禮中藉肉體得以重建——如今卻又說靈魂應藉肉體受玷污,這裡就不能理解為善的功德,而只能是惡的功德了。所以,姑且也撇開這一點:直截了當地相信靈魂在進入肉體之前擁有善的或惡的功德,都不合乎大公信仰。
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Noli credere nec dicere nec docere, \'quod anima meruerit esse peccatrix ante omne peceatum\', si uis esse catholicus. ualde enim malum meritum est meruisse fieri peccatricem. et utique tam malum meritum nullo modo habere potuit ante omne peccatum, praesertim priusquam ueniret in carnem, quando meritum nec malum potuit habere nec bonum. quomodo igitur dicis: anima itaque si peccatrix esse meruit, quae peccatrix esse non potuit, neque in peccato remansit, quia in Christo praefigurata in peccato esse non debuit, sicut esse non potuit ? attende quid dieas et desiste iam dicere. quomodo enim meruit et quomodo non potuit esse peccatrix?
Do not believe, nor say, nor teach that "the soul deserved to become a sinner before any sin," if you wish to be a Catholic. For it is a very evil desert to have deserved to be made a sinner. And assuredly it could in no way have had so evil a desert before any sin, especially before it came into the flesh, when it could have neither evil nor good desert. How then do you say: "The soul therefore, if it deserved to be a sinner, which could not be a sinner, neither remained in sin, because, being prefigured in Christ, it ought not to be in sin, just as it could not be"? Consider what you are saying, and now cease to say it. For how did it deserve, and how could it not be a sinner?
你若要作大公信徒,切莫相信、切莫言說、切莫教導說:「靈魂在犯任何罪之前就應當成為罪人。」因為應當被造成罪人乃是極惡的功德。何況它在犯任何罪之前,尤其在進入肉體之前——那時它既不能有惡功德也不能有善功德——絕不可能擁有如此惡的功德。那麼你怎能說:「靈魂若應當作罪人,卻又不能作罪人,也不曾停留在罪中,因為它既在基督裡被預表,就不該在罪中,正如它不能在罪中一樣」?你想想你在說什麼,如今就住口罷。因為它究竟怎樣應當、又怎樣不能作罪人呢?
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quomodo, quaeso te, peccatrix esse meruit, quae male non uixit? quomodo, quaeso te, peccatrix facta est, quae peccatrix esse non potuit? aut si \'non potuit\' ideo dicis, quia praeter carnem non potuit, quomodo ergo meruit esse peccatrix, quo merito in carnem mitteretur, quando quidem ante carnem non potuit esse peccatrix, unde mali aliquid mereretur? Noli credere nec dicere nec docere \'infantes antequam baptizentur morte praeuentos peruenire posse ad originalium indulgentiam peccatorum\', si uis esse catholicus. exempla enim, quae te fallunt, uel de latrone qui dominum est confessus in cruce uel de fratre sanctae Perpetuae Dinocrate nihil tibi ad huius erroris sententiam suffragantur.
How, I ask you, did it deserve to be a sinner, when it did not live wickedly? How, I ask you, was it made a sinner, when it could not be a sinner? Or if you say "it could not" for the reason that it could not apart from the flesh, how then did it deserve to be a sinner — by which desert it should be sent into the flesh — seeing that before the flesh it could not be a sinner, whence it should deserve anything evil? Do not believe, nor say, nor teach that "infants who die before they are baptized, being prevented by death, can attain to the pardon of original sins," if you wish to be a Catholic. For the examples that deceive you — whether of the thief who confessed the Lord on the cross, or of Dinocrates the brother of holy Perpetua — lend no support to the opinion of this error of yours.
我問你,它既未曾邪惡度日,怎能應當作罪人呢?我問你,它既不能作罪人,怎會被造成罪人呢?倘若你說「它不能」,是因為它離了肉體便不能,那麼它既在進入肉體之前不能作罪人、無從應得任何惡,又怎能應當作罪人,以致憑此功德被差入肉體呢?你若要作大公信徒,切莫相信、切莫言說、切莫教導說:「嬰兒在受洗之前被死亡截斷,仍能得到原罪的赦免。」因為那些迷惑你的例子——無論是在十字架上認主的強盜,還是聖佩爾佩圖亞的兄弟狄諾克拉底——都絲毫不能支持你這錯謬的論斷。
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latro quippe ille, quamuis potuerit iudicio diuino inter eos deputari, qui martyrii confessione purgantur, tamen etiam utrum non fuerit baptizatus ignoras. nam, ut omittam, quod creditur aqua simul cum sanguine exiliente de latere domini iuxta confixus potuisse perfundi atque huiusmodi sanctissimo baptismate dilui, quid si in carcere fuerat baptizatus, quod et postea persecutionis tempore nonnulli clanculo impetrare potuerunt? quid si et antequam teneretur? neque enim propterea illi publicae leges parcere poterant, quantum adtinet ad corporis mortem, quoniam diuinitus remissionem acceperat peccatorum.
For as to that thief, although by the divine judgment he could be reckoned among those who are purified by the confession of martyrdom, yet you do not even know whether he was not baptized. For — to pass over the belief that, being fixed near the Lord, he could have been drenched by the water flowing forth together with the blood from the Lord's side, and thus washed by that most holy baptism — what if he had been baptized in prison, which some too were afterward able to obtain secretly in the time of persecution? What if even before he was arrested? Nor for that reason could the public laws spare him, so far as pertains to the death of the body, merely because he had received the remission of sins from God.
至於那強盜,儘管按神的判斷他可被算在那些藉殉道的認信而得潔淨之人中,但你甚至不曉得他是否未曾受洗。因為——姑且撇開這一信念:他被釘在主旁,或許曾被那從主肋旁與血同流而出的水所浸透,從而受了那至聖的洗禮而得潔淨——倘若他曾在牢中受洗呢?後來在逼迫之時也有人能暗中得此洗。倘若他甚至在被捕之前就受了洗呢?就肉身之死而論,公家的律法並不因他已從神那裡領受了罪的赦免,就得饒他不死。
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quid si iam baptizatus in latrocinii facinus et crimen incurrerat et non expers baptismatis, sed tamquam paenitens accepit scelerum ueniam quae baptizatus ammisit? quando quidem pietas tam fidelis et domino in animo eius et nobis in uerbis eius apparuit. nam si eos, de quibus 11011 scriptum est utrum fuerint baptizati, sine baptismo de hac uita recessisse contendimus, ipsis calumniamur apostolis, qui praeter apostolum Paulum quando baptizati fuerint ignoramus. sed si ipsos baptizatos esse per hoc nobis innotescere potuit, quod beato Petro dominus ait:
What if, being already baptized, he had fallen into the deed and crime of robbery, and, not being void of baptism but as a penitent, received pardon for the wickednesses he committed after being baptized? Since indeed so faithful a piety appeared toward the Lord in his heart and toward us in his words. For if we contend that those of whom it is not written whether they were baptized departed this life without baptism, we slander the apostles themselves, of whom, apart from the apostle Paul, we do not know when they were baptized. But if we could come to know that they were baptized through this, that the Lord said to blessed Peter:
倘若他已受洗,卻陷入了搶劫的行為與罪過,並非未曾受洗,而是以悔改者的身分,領受了他受洗之後所犯諸惡的赦免呢?因為如此忠信的敬虔,既在他心中向著主顯明,也在他口中向著我們顯明。因為我們若主張那些聖經未載明是否受洗之人乃無洗而離世,我們便是誣衊使徒本身;因為除保羅使徒外,我們並不曉得眾使徒何時受洗。但我們若能藉此得知他們確曾受洗,即主對有福的彼得所說:
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qui lotus est, non indiget, ut lauet, quid de aliis, de quibus uel tale nihil legimus dictum, de Barnaba, de Timotheo, de Tito, de Sila, de Philemone, de ipsis euangelistis Marco et Luca, de innumerabilibus ceteris, quos absit ut baptizatos esse dubitemus. quamuis non legamus? Dinocrates autem septennis puer, in quibus annis pueri cum baptizantur iam symbolum reddunt et pro se ipsi ad interrogata respondent, cur non tibi uisus fuerit baptizatus potuisse ab impio patre ad gentilium sacrilegia reuocari et ob hoe fuisse in poenis, de quibus sorore orante liberatus est, nescio.
"He who is washed does not need to wash" — what shall we say of the others, of whom we read no such thing spoken: of Barnabas, of Timothy, of Titus, of Silas, of Philemon, of the very evangelists Mark and Luke, of countless others, whom God forbid that we should doubt were baptized, although we do not read it? And Dinocrates, a seven-year-old boy — at which age boys, when they are baptized, already recite the creed and answer for themselves to the questions asked — why it should not have seemed to you that he could have been baptized and then recalled by his impious father to the sacrileges of the Gentiles, and for this reason have been in the punishments from which he was freed by his sister's prayer, I do not know.
「凡洗過澡的人,只需洗腳」——那麼對其他人我們又當如何說呢?就是那些我們讀不到有這類話論及的人:巴拿巴、提摩太、提多、西拉、腓利門,以及馬可、路加二福音書作者本人,還有無數其他人,我們斷不可懷疑他們受過洗,儘管我們並未讀到記載。至於狄諾克拉底,一個七歲的男孩——在這年紀的男孩受洗時已能背誦信經、並親自回答所問——為何在你看來,他不可能是曾受了洗,後又被不敬虔的父親引回外邦人的邪教祭祀,並因此陷在刑罰之中,直到藉姊姊的禱告得釋放呢?我不明白。
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neque enim et ipsum uel numquam fuisse Christianum uel catechumenum defunetum fuisse legisti, quamquam ipsa lectio non sit in eo canone scripturarum, unde in huiusmodi quaestionibus testimonia proferenda sunt. Noli credere nec dicere nec docere \'quos dominus praedestinauit ad baptismum, praedestinationi eius eripi posse et ante defungi quam in eis fuerit quod omnipotens praedestinauit inpletum\', si uis esse catholicus. nescio qua hie enim potestas contra potestatem dei casibus datur, quibus inruentibus quod ille praedestinauit fieri non sinatur.
For neither did you read that he was never a Christian or that he died a catechumen — although that very reading is not in the canon of Scriptures from which testimonies must be produced in questions of this kind. Do not believe, nor say, nor teach that "those whom the Lord has predestined to baptism can be snatched from His predestination and die before that which the Almighty has predestined has been fulfilled in them," if you wish to be a Catholic. For I know not what power against the power of God is here granted to chances, by whose sudden onset what He has predestined is not permitted to come to pass.
因為你既沒有讀到他從來不是基督徒,也沒有讀到他以慕道者的身分死去——儘管那段記載本身並不在聖經正典之內,而在這類問題上,作證的憑據必須出於正典。你若要作大公信徒,切莫相信、切莫言說、切莫教導說:「那些被主預定要受洗的人,能從祂的預定中被奪去,並在全能者所預定的事在他們身上成就之前就死去。」因為我不知這裡竟給了偶然事件何種能力,足以對抗神的能力,以致這些事一旦突然發生,神所預定的便不得成就。
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hic error quanta errantem uoragine inpietatis absorbeat exaggerare non opus est, cum prudentem uirum et corrigi paratum breuiter ammonuisse sufficiat. tua quippe ista sunt uerba: habendam dicimus . inquis, de infantibus istius modi rationem, qui praedestinati baptismo uitae praesentis, antequam renascantur in Christo, praeueniuntur occiduo . ergone praedestinati baptismo uitae praesentis, antequam ad eum perueniant, praeueniuntur occiduo et praedestinaret deus quod futurum non fuisse praesciuit aut hoc futurum non fuisse nesciuit, ut eius aut praedestinatio frustraretur aut praescientia falleretur?
There is no need to enlarge upon how great a whirlpool of impiety this error engulfs the one who errs in, since it is enough briefly to have admonished a prudent man ready to be corrected. For these are your very words: "We say," you say, "that this manner of reasoning must be held concerning infants of this kind, who, predestined to the baptism of the present life, are forestalled by death before they are reborn in Christ." So then, are those predestined to the baptism of the present life forestalled by death before they attain to it, and did God predestine what He foreknew would not come to pass, or did He not know that it would not come to pass, so that either His predestination was frustrated or His foreknowledge deceived?
這錯謬把犯錯者捲入何等深廣的不敬虔漩渦,無需多加渲染,因為對一位謹慎而樂於受正的人,簡短地提醒就夠了。因為以下正是你的話:你說:「我們認為對這類嬰兒必須持守這樣的推理:他們雖被預定要領受今生的洗禮,卻在於基督裡重生之前就被死亡截住。」那麼,被預定領受今生洗禮的人,竟在達到洗禮之前被死亡截住嗎?難道神預定了祂預知不會發生的事,或不曉得那事不會發生,以致祂的預定落空,或祂的預知受欺嗎?
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uides quanta hinc dici possent, nisi quod paulo ante dixi tenerem, ut hinc te breuiter ammonerem. Xoli credere nec dicere nec docere \'de infantibus, qui priusquam renascantur in Christo, praeueniuntur occiduo, scriptum esse: \'raptus e st, ne malitia mutet illius intellectum autne f ictio decipiat an i mam eius. propter h o c properauit de medio iniquitatis illum e du cer e; pla cita enim erat deo anima cius, et: cons u mmatus in breui repleuit tempora longa ̒ , si uis esse catholicus. hoc enim ad illos omnino non pertinet, sed ad eos potius, qui baptizati et pie uiuentes diu non permittuntur hic uiuere non annis, sed sapientiae gratia consummati.
You see how many things could here be said, were I not to hold to what I said a little before, so as briefly to admonish you here. Do not believe, nor say, nor teach that "concerning infants who, before they are reborn in Christ, are forestalled by death, it is written: 'He was caught away, lest wickedness should alter his understanding or deceit beguile his soul. Therefore He hastened to lead him out of the midst of iniquity; for his soul was pleasing to God,' and: 'Being made perfect in a short while, he fulfilled long times,'" if you wish to be a Catholic. For this pertains not at all to those, but rather to those who, being baptized and living devoutly, are not permitted to live here long, being made perfect not in years but in the grace of wisdom.
你看,此處本可說出許多話來,只是我不願離開稍前所說的,好在此簡短提醒你。你若要作大公信徒,切莫相信、切莫言說、切莫教導說:「論到那些在於基督裡重生之前被死亡截住的嬰兒,經上記著:『他被提去,免得邪惡改變他的悟性,或詭詐迷惑他的心。故此神急速把他從罪惡之中領出,因為他的靈魂為神所喜悅』;又說:『他在短時間內成全,就補滿了長久的年日。』」因為這話絲毫不涉及那些嬰兒,倒是指那些受了洗、敬虔度日的人,他們不蒙允許在此久活——他們的成全不在乎年歲,而在乎智慧的恩典。
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iste uero error, quo putatur hoc de paruulis antequam baptizentur morientibus esse dictum. ipsi sacrosancto lauacro intolerabilem facit iniuriam, si paruulus, qui baptizatus rapi poterat. propterea prius rapitur, ne malitia mutet illius intellectum aut nc fictio decipiat animam eius; quasi in eodem baptismo haec esse malitia credatur et fictio qua in peius mutetur et decipiatur, si non ante rapiatur.
But this error, by which this is thought to have been said of little ones who die before they are baptized, does an intolerable injury to the sacred laver itself, if the little one who could be baptized and then caught away is for that reason caught away first, "lest wickedness alter his understanding or deceit beguile his soul" — as though in that very baptism there were believed to be this wickedness and deceit by which he would be changed for the worse and deceived, if he were not first caught away.
然而這錯謬——以為這話是論到那些受洗之前死去的幼童——實在給那神聖的洗盆帶來難以容忍的侮辱,倘若那本可受洗而後被提去的幼童,竟因此被提去在先,「免得邪惡改變他的悟性,或詭詐迷惑他的心」——彷彿在那洗禮之中就有這邪惡與詭詐,若不先把他提去,他就要藉此變得更壞、受迷惑一般。
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