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Letters & Polemics (CSEL) 24 part 2/9

Latin original · 38 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss · long chapter, split into parts; this part covers 24:41–24:78 (337 verses in all)

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24:41
quod ei ne contingat, quanto melius tenet de origine animae cunctationem meam ne audeat affirmare, quod nec humana ratione conprehendit nec diuina auctoritate defendit, ne cogatur insipientiam profiteri, dum ueretur ignorantiam confiteri! Hic forte dicat sententiam suam diuina auctoritate defendi, quoniam sanctarum scripturarum testimoniis probare se existimat \'animas a deo non ex propagine fieri, sed nouas singulis insufflari\'. probet, si potest, et fatebor me didicisse ab illo quod magna intentione quaerebam. sed quaerat, aliane fortassis inueniat; nam hoc istis testimoniis, quae iam posuit. non probauit. omnia quippe quae hic adhibuit ad aliquid certa sunt;
That this may not befall him, how much better does he hold to my hesitation concerning the origin of the soul, that he may not dare to affirm what neither human reason comprehends nor divine authority defends, lest he be compelled to profess folly while he shrinks from confessing ignorance! Here perhaps he may say that his opinion is defended by divine authority, since he supposes that by the testimonies of the holy Scriptures he can prove that 'souls are not made from propagation, but new ones are breathed into each individual.' Let him prove it, if he can, and I will confess that I have learned from him what I was seeking with great earnestness. But let him seek — perhaps he may find some other testimony; for by these which he has already produced he has not proved it. For all that he has here adduced are certain with respect to something else;
為使這事不臨到他,他若持守我對於靈魂起源的躊躇,豈不好得多,免得他膽敢確認那既非人的理性所能領會、也非神的權柄所能辯護之事,以致當他不肯承認無知時,反被迫承認愚昧!在此他或許會說,他的見解有神的權柄為之辯護,因他自以為能憑聖經的見證證明:「靈魂並非由繁衍而生,乃是新的靈魂被吹入每一個人。」若他能夠,就讓他證明,我便承認自己從他學到了我一向極力尋求之事。但讓他去尋求罷——他或許能找到別的見證;因為憑他已經提出的這些,他並未證明此事。因為他在此所引用的一切,就別的事而言固然確鑿;
24:42
ad hoc uero, quod de animae origine quaeritur. demonstrantur ambigua. certum est enim deum dedisse hominibus flatum et spiritum dicente propheta: sic dicit d ominus, qui fecit caelum et fundauit terram et quae sunt inea, qui dat flatum populo super eam et spiritum calcantibus cam. hoc testimonium iste in eam sententiam uult accipi, quam defendit, ut, quod ait, \'dat flatum populo\', non ex propagine facere animas populo, sed nouas insufflare credatur. audeat ergo dicere non ipsum nobis dedisse carnem, quia de parentibus origo carnis adtracta est, et, ulli ait apostolus de frumenti grano:
but with respect to that which is asked concerning the origin of the soul, they are shown to be ambiguous. For it is certain that God has given men breath and spirit, the prophet saying: 'Thus says the Lord, who made heaven and founded the earth and the things that are in it, who gives breath to the people upon it and spirit to those who tread it.' This testimony he wishes to be taken in the sense which he defends, so that where it says 'gives breath to the people,' it be believed not to make souls for the people from propagation, but to breathe in new ones. Let him then dare to say that God did not give us the flesh, because the origin of the flesh is drawn from the parents; and, since the Apostle says of a grain of wheat:
但就人所詢問關於靈魂起源之事而言,它們卻顯為含糊。因為確實的是,神已賜給人氣息與靈,正如先知所說:「創造諸天、奠定大地、並地上萬物的主如此說,就是那賜氣息給地上之民、賜靈給行走其上之人的。」他要把這見證按他所辯護的意思來理解,以致經上所說「賜氣息給民」,被人相信為並非由繁衍為民造靈,乃是吹入新的靈。那麼就讓他膽敢說:神並未賜給我們肉體,因為肉體的起源是從父母而來;而既然使徒論到一粒麥子說:「
24:43
deus illi dat corpus quomodo uoluerit, neget, si audet, de tritico triticum nasci et herbam eius ex semine secundum genus. quod si negare non audet, unde igitur scit quomodo dictum sit \'dat flatum populo\', utrum eum trahens de parentibus an insufflans nouum? Vnde etiam scit, utrum \'repetitio sententiae sit: qui dat flatum populo super eam et spiritum calcantibus eam\', ut de una re utrumque dictum intellegatur et non animam uel spiritum quo natura uiuit humana, sed spiritum sanctum significare uoluerit? si enim flatu non posset significari spiritus sanctus, non dominus post resurrectionem insufflasset discipulis et dixisset:
'God gives it a body as He has willed,' let him deny, if he dares, that wheat is born from wheat and its blade from the seed according to its kind. But if he does not dare to deny this, whence then does he know how it was said 'gives breath to the people' — whether drawing it from the parents or breathing in a new one? Whence too does he know whether 'it is a repetition of the same statement: who gives breath to the people upon it and spirit to those who tread it,' so that both are understood to be said of one thing, and he meant to signify not the soul or the spirit by which human nature lives, but the Holy Spirit? For if the Holy Spirit could not be signified by 'breath,' the Lord would not, after the resurrection, have breathed on the disciples and said:
神隨自己的意思賜它一個身體」,他若膽敢,就讓他否認麥子從麥子而生、麥苗從種子各從其類而出。但他若不敢否認這事,那麼他從何得知「賜氣息給民」是如何說的——究竟是從父母牽引氣息,還是吹入新的氣息?他又從何得知,「賜氣息給地上之民、賜靈給行走其上之人」是否為同一句話的重複,以致二者被理解為就同一事而言,而他所要指的並非人性藉以存活的靈魂或靈,乃是聖靈?因為,倘若「氣息」不能指聖靈,主就不會在復活之後向門徒吹氣並說:「
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accipite spiritum sanctum, neque scriptum esset in Actibus apostolorum: factus est subito de caelo sonus, quasiferretur flatus uehemens, et uisae sunt illis linguae diuisae sicut ignis, qui et insedit super unumquemque eorum, et inpleti sunt omnes spiritu sancto. quid si hoc propheta praenuntiauit dicens: quidat flatum populo super eam et tamquam exponens quid dixerit flatum repetiuit atque ait: et spiritum calcantibus eam ? tunc enim euidentissime factum est, quando inpleti sunt omnes spiritu sancto.
'Receive the Holy Spirit'; nor would it have been written in the Acts of the Apostles: 'Suddenly there came from heaven a sound as of a rushing violent wind, and there appeared to them divided tongues as of fire, which also rested upon each one of them, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit.' What if the prophet foretold this, saying 'who gives breath to the people upon it,' and, as if explaining what he meant by 'breath,' repeated it and said 'and spirit to those who tread it'? For then it came to pass most evidently, when they were all filled with the Holy Spirit.
『你們受聖靈罷』;使徒行傳裏也不會記着:『忽然從天上有響聲下來,好像一陣猛烈的風吹過,又有舌頭如火焰顯現,分開落在他們各人身上,他們就都被聖靈充滿。』倘若先知正是預言了此事,說『那賜氣息給地上之民的』,並彷彿在解釋他所說『氣息』的意思,便重複說『賜靈給行走其上之人』,那又如何呢?因為那時它極其明顯地應驗了,就是當眾人都被聖靈充滿之時。
24:45
aut si nondum dicendus est populus centum uiginti homines, qui tunc in loco uno aderant, certe quando simul quattuor uel quinque milia crediderunt et baptizati acceperunt spiritum sanctum, quis dubitauerit simul populum accepisse spiritum sanctum et multitudinem quae ambulabat in terra, id est homines calcantes terram? nam ille qui datur ad naturam hominis pertinens, siue ex propagine detur siue nouus insuffletur — quorum nihil affirmandum esse dico, donec alterutrum sine ulla dubitatione clarescat —, non datur calcantibus terram, sed adhuc materno utero inclusis. dedit ergo flatum populo super terram et spiritum calcantibus eam, quando multi simul credentes repleti sunt spiritu sancto.
Or if the one hundred and twenty men who were then present in one place are not yet to be called a people, surely when at once four or five thousand believed and, being baptized, received the Holy Spirit, who would doubt that a people at once received the Holy Spirit — a multitude that was walking on the earth, that is, men treading the earth? For that which is given as pertaining to the nature of man — whether it be given from propagation or breathed in as new (neither of which, I say, is to be affirmed until one or the other becomes clear without any doubt) — is not given to those treading the earth, but to those still enclosed in the mother's womb. He gave therefore breath to the people upon the earth and spirit to those treading it, when many believing at once were filled with the Holy Spirit.
又或者,那時同在一處的一百二十人尚不足稱為「民」,那麼當一下子有四千或五千人相信、受洗並領受聖靈時,誰能懷疑一群民同時領受了聖靈——就是那行走在地上的一群人,即踐踏地面的人?因為那作為屬乎人之本性而賜下的(無論它是由繁衍而賜,還是作為新的被吹入——我說,這二者在其一無疑地顯明之前都不當確認),並非賜給踐踏地面的人,乃是賜給仍封閉在母腹中的人。所以,當許多人同時相信、被聖靈充滿時,祂便賜氣息給地上之民、賜靈給踐踏其上之人。
24:46
et ipse dat eum populo suo, etsi non simul omnibus, suo cuique tempore, donec discedendo de hac uita et succedendo in hanc uitam uniuersus eiusdem populi numerus compleatur, ut hoc sanctae scripturae loco non aliud sit flatus, aliud spiritus, sed eiusdem sententiae repetitio. sicut non alius est \'qui habitat in caelis\' et alius \'dominus\' nec aliud est \'inridere\' et aliud \'subsannare\', sed eadem sententia repetita est, ubi legitur: qui habitat in caelis, inridebit eos et dominus subsannabit eos, uel, cum dictum est:
And He Himself gives it to His people — though not to all at once, but to each in his own time — until, by departing from this life and succeeding into this life, the whole number of that same people be completed; so that in this passage of holy Scripture the breath is not one thing and the spirit another, but a repetition of the same statement. Just as it is not one who 'dwells in the heavens' and another who is 'the Lord,' nor one thing to 'laugh' and another to 'mock,' but the same statement is repeated, where it is read: 'He who dwells in the heavens shall laugh at them, and the Lord shall mock them'; or, when it is said:
祂親自將它賜給祂的子民——雖非同時賜給眾人,乃是各按其時——直到那同一子民的全數,藉着離開此生、又接續進入此生而滿足;如此,在聖經這段經文中,氣息與靈並非二事,乃是同一句話的重複。正如「住在天上者」與「主」並非二者,「嗤笑」與「譏誚」也非二事,乃是同一句話的重複,正如經上所讀:「那住在天上的必嗤笑他們,主必譏誚他們」;又如經上所說:「
24:47
dabo tibi gentes hereditatem tuam et possessionem tuam fines terrae non utique aliud dixit \'hereditatem\', aliud \'possessionem\' nec aliud \'gentes\', aliud \'fines terrae\', sed eiusdem sententiae repetitio est. et innumerabiles inueniet huiusmodi locutiones diuinorum eloquiorum. si aduertat quod legit. Quod autem graecus dicit πνοἡν hoc latini uarie interpretati sunt: aliquando \'flatum\', aliquando \'spiritum\', aliquando \'inspirationem\'. nam hoc uerbum habent codices graeci in isto prophetico testimonio, de quo nunc agimus. ubi dictum est: qui dat flatum populo super eam, hoc est πνοἡν ipsum uerbum est et ubi homo animatus est: et insufflauit deus in faciem eius flatum uitae.
'I will give you the nations for your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for your possession,' He surely did not say one thing by 'inheritance' and another by 'possession,' nor one thing by 'nations' and another by 'ends of the earth,' but it is a repetition of the same statement. And he will find innumerable expressions of this sort in the divine oracles, if he attends to what he reads. Now what the Greek calls πνοήν, the Latins have variously rendered: sometimes 'breath' (flatum), sometimes 'spirit' (spiritum), sometimes 'inspiration' (inspirationem). For the Greek codices have this very word in that prophetic testimony of which we are now treating, where it is said 'who gives breath to the people upon it': this is πνοήν, the very word which is also used where man was animated: 'and God breathed into his face the breath of life.'
『我要將列國賜你為基業,將地極賜你為產業』,祂當然不是以『基業』指一事、以『產業』指另一事,也不是以『列國』指一事、以『地極』指另一事,乃是同一句話的重複。他若留意所讀的,就必在神的聖言中發現無數這類的說法。至於希臘文所稱的 πνοήν,拉丁人有各種譯法:有時作『氣息』(flatum),有時作『靈』(spiritum),有時作『吹氣/靈感』(inspirationem)。因為在我們如今所論的那先知見證中,希臘文抄本正有這同一個字,就是經上所說『那賜氣息給地上之民的』:這正是 πνοήν,也正是人被賦予生命之處所用的同一個字:『神將生氣吹在他臉上。』
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sed ipsum uerbum est et in psalmo, ubi canitur: omnis spiritus laudet dominum; ipsum est et in libro Iob, ubi scriptum est: aspiratio autem omnipotentis est, quae docet. noluit dicere flatus, sed \'aspiratio\', cum in graeco sit πνοἡ . quod etiam in illis uerbis est prophetae, de quibus nunc disputamus. et certe hoc loco nescio utrum debeat dubitari spiritum sanetum esse significatum. agebatur enim de sapientia, unde sit in hominibus: quia non ex numero annorum, sed spiritus, inquit, est in hominibus, aspiratio autem omnipotentis, quae docet, ut intellegeretur ista repetitione non se de spiritu hominis dixisse, quod ait: spiritus est in hominibus.
But the very same word is also in the psalm, where it is sung: 'Let every spirit praise the Lord'; and it is likewise in the Book of Job, where it is written: 'But it is the inspiration of the Almighty that teaches.' He would not say 'breath,' but 'inspiration,' though in the Greek it is πνοή, which is also in those words of the prophet of which we are now disputing. And certainly in this place I do not know whether one ought to doubt that the Holy Spirit is signified. For the matter treated was wisdom, whence it comes to be in men: 'For it is not from the number of years,' he says, 'but the spirit is in men, and the inspiration of the Almighty is that which teaches' — so that it might be understood, by this repetition, that he had not spoken of the spirit of man in saying 'the spirit is in men.'
然而這同一個字也在詩篇中,正如經上所唱:『凡有氣息的都要讚美耶和華』;同樣也在約伯記中,正如經上所寫:『但全能者的氣息使人有聰明。』他不肯說『氣息』(flatus),卻說『氣息/靈感』(aspiratio),雖然希臘文作 πνοή,這也正是我們如今所辯論的那先知之言中所用的字。而在此處,我確不知是否應當懷疑所指的乃是聖靈。因為所論的乃是智慧——它如何存於人中:『他說,並非在乎年紀多寡,乃是人裏面的靈,全能者的氣息使人有聰明』——如此,藉這重複便可明白,他說『靈在人裏面』時所指的並非人的靈。
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uolebat enim ostendere, unde habeant sapientiam, quia non a se ipsis, et repetendo id exposuit dicens: aspiratio omnipotentis est, quae docet. item alio loco in eodem libro: intellectus, inquit, labiorum meorum pura intellegit. spiritus diuinus qui fecit me, inspiratio autem omnipotentis, quae docet m c. et hic quod ait \'inspiratio\' uel \'aspiratio\', in graeco est πνοἡ qui in illis prophetae uerbis interpretatus est \'flatus\'. quamobrem cum temere negetur de anima hominis uel de spiritu hominis esse dictum:
For he wished to show whence they have wisdom, namely that it is not from themselves, and by repeating he set it forth, saying: 'It is the inspiration of the Almighty that teaches.' Likewise in another place in the same book he says: 'The understanding of my lips understands pure things. The divine Spirit that made me, and the inspiration of the Almighty, is that which teaches me.' And here what he says 'inspiration' or 'aspiration' is in the Greek πνοή, which in those words of the prophet was rendered 'breath' (flatus). Wherefore, since it is rashly denied that it was said of the soul of man or the spirit of man:
因為他要顯明他們的智慧從何而來,即並非出於自己,並藉重複而闡明,說:『乃是全能者的氣息使人有聰明。』同樣,在同一卷書的另一處他說:『我嘴唇的悟性領會純淨之事。那造我的神聖的靈,並全能者的氣息,就是那教導我的。』而此處他所說的『氣息/靈感』(inspiratio)或『氣息』(aspiratio),在希臘文乃是 πνοή,就是在那先知之言中被譯作『氣息』(flatus)的字。因此,既然說『那賜氣息給地上之民、賜靈給行走其上之人』是論及人的靈魂或人的靈,這乃是輕率的否認:
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qui dat flatum populo super eam e t spiritum calcantibus eam, quamuis ibi et spiritus sanctus multo credibilius possit intellegi, qua tandem ratione audebit aliquis definire animam uel spiritum. quo natura nostra uinit, loco illo uoluisse significare prophetam? cum profecto si apertissime diceret \'qui dat animam populo super terram\', adhue quaerendum esset, utrum esset deus ex origine praecedentis generis det, sicut ex origine praecedentis generis ipse tamen dat corpus non solum homini aut pecori. sed etiam semini tritici aut alicuius ceterorum quomodo uoluerit, an uero nouam, sicut homo primus accepit, insufflet. Sunt etiam, qui haec uerba prophetica sic intellegant. ut quod ait :
'who gives breath to the people upon it and spirit to those treading it' — although in that place the Holy Spirit too can much more credibly be understood — by what reasoning then will anyone dare to define that in that passage the prophet meant to signify the soul or the spirit by which our nature lives? For assuredly, even if he had said most plainly 'who gives soul to the people upon the earth,' it would still have to be asked whether it be that God gives it from the origin of a preceding generation — just as, from the origin of a preceding generation, He nevertheless Himself gives the body not only to man or beast, but even to the seed of wheat or of any of the rest, as He has willed — or whether He breathes in a new one, as the first man received. There are also those who understand these prophetic words in such a way that what he says:
『那賜氣息給地上之民、賜靈給行走其上之人』——雖然在那處聖靈更可信地被理解——那麼,誰能憑何理由膽敢斷定:先知在那段話中所要指的乃是我們本性藉以存活的靈魂或靈呢?因為,縱使他極其明白地說『那賜靈魂給地上之民的』,仍須追問:這究竟是神從先前世代的起源而賜(正如祂雖從先前世代的起源,卻仍親自隨己意將身體不僅賜給人或牲畜,甚至賜給麥種或其餘任何種子),還是祂吹入一個新的,如同首先的人所領受的。也有人這樣理解這些先知之言,就是他所說:
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dedit flatum populos cam, id est super terram, non nisi animam uelint accipi flatum; quod uero adiunxit: et spiritum calcantibus eam, spiritum sanctum significatum arbitrantur, illo scilicet ordine, quo et apostolus dicit: non primum quod spiritale est, sed quod animae, postea spiritale. nam ex hac prophetica sententia etiam elegans ille sensus exsculpitur, quod ita dixerit \'calcantibus eam\', ut uellet intellegi \'contemnentibus eam\'. qui enim accipiunt spiritum sanctum, amore caelestium terrena contemnunt. hae omnes sententiae non sunt contra fidem, siue utrumque, id est et flatum et spiritum qui pertinet ad humanam naturam.
'He gave breath to the people upon it,' that is, upon the earth, they will have to be understood as meaning nothing but the soul by 'breath'; but what he added, 'and spirit to those treading it,' they think signifies the Holy Spirit — in that order, namely, by which the Apostle too says: 'Not first that which is spiritual, but that which is of the soul (natural), afterward the spiritual.' For from this prophetic statement an elegant sense too is carved out, in that he said 'to those treading it' so as to wish it understood 'to those despising it.' For those who receive the Holy Spirit, by love of heavenly things despise earthly things. All these opinions are not against the faith, whether one understands both — that is, both the breath and the spirit that pertain to human nature.
『祂賜氣息給地上之民』,即賜於地上,他們要把『氣息』理解為僅指靈魂;但他所加的『賜靈給行走其上之人』,他們認為所指的乃是聖靈——正是按那次序,即使徒所說的:『屬靈的不在先,乃是屬血氣(屬魂)的在先,然後才是屬靈的。』因為從這先知之言還可雕琢出一個精妙的意義,就是他說『行走其上之人』,乃要人理解為『藐視地的人』。因為那些領受聖靈的人,因愛慕天上之事而藐視地上之事。這一切見解都不與信仰相悖,無論人是把二者——即那屬乎人性的氣息與靈——
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quisque intellegat siue utrumque dictum accipiat de spiritu sancto siue flatum ad animam, spiritum uero ad spiritum sanctum referat. sed si anima et spiritus hominis et hic intellegendus est, sicut non dubitandum est quod eum deus det, ita quaerendum est adhuc unde det, utrum ex propagine, sicut ipse quidem dat, sed tamen ex propagine dat corporis membra, an uero nouum neque propagatum singulis insufflando distribuat; quod non ambigua, sicut iste facit, sed aliqua certissima uolumus diuinorum eloquiorum auctoritate defendi. Eadem ratione etiam quod dicit deus: spiritus enim a me exiet et omnem flatum ego feci, de spiritu quidem sancto accipiendum est quod ait:
Let each one understand [as he will], whether he take both as said of the Holy Spirit, or refer the breath to the soul but the spirit to the Holy Spirit. But if the soul and spirit of man is to be understood here also, then, just as it is not to be doubted that God gives it, so it must still be asked whence He gives it: whether from propagation — as indeed He Himself gives, yet from propagation, the members of the body — or whether He distributes a new one, unpropagated, by breathing it into each individual. This we wish to be defended not by ambiguous testimonies, as this man does, but by some most certain authority of the divine oracles. By the same reasoning also, as to what God says: 'For a spirit shall go forth from me, and every breath I have made,' what He says is to be taken of the Holy Spirit:
就讓各人隨意理解,無論他是把二者都當作論及聖靈,還是把氣息歸於靈魂、把靈歸於聖靈。但倘若此處所當理解的乃是人的靈魂與靈,那麼,正如不可懷疑神賜下它,照樣仍須追問祂從何而賜:究竟是由繁衍而賜(正如祂雖親自賜下身體的肢體,卻是由繁衍而賜),還是祂藉着吹入每一個人而分派一個新的、未經繁衍的靈。這一點,我們願它不是憑含糊的見證來辯護(如這人所行),乃是憑神聖言某些最確鑿的權柄來辯護。照樣,就神所說:『因為靈必從我而出,凡有氣息的都是我所造的』,祂所說的『
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spiritus a me exiet, de quo et saluator ait: a patre procedit, sed quod dictum est: omnem flatum ego feci, de omni anima dictum negari non potest. sed omne etiam corpus ipse facit; quod autem ex propagine corpus humanum faciat, nullus ambigit. ac per huc de anima, cum eam constet ab illo fieri, unde eam faciat, utrum ex propagine sicut corpus an insufflando sicut primam fecit, adhuc utique requirendum est. Adiecit etiam tertium testimonium, quia scriptum est: qui fingit spiritum hominis in ipso. quasi hoc negetur; sed unde eum fingat, hoc quaeritur. nam et corporalem hominis oculum quis nisi deus fingit? et puto quod non extra, sed in ipso et tamen, ut certum est, ex propagine.
'a spirit shall go forth from me,' of which the Saviour too says 'proceeds from the Father,' is to be taken of the Holy Spirit; but what is said, 'every breath I have made,' cannot be denied to be said of every soul. But every body too He Himself makes; yet that He makes the human body from propagation no one doubts. And thus concerning the soul, since it is agreed that it is made by Him, it is still assuredly to be inquired whence He makes it — whether from propagation, like the body, or by breathing it in, as He made the first. He added also a third testimony, because it is written: 'who fashions the spirit of man within him.' As though this were denied; but whence He fashions it, this is asked. For who but God fashions even the bodily eye of man? And I think that He fashions it not outside but within him, and yet, as is certain, from propagation.
『靈必從我而出』(救主論到聖靈也說『祂從父出來』),乃是論及聖靈;但所說的『凡有氣息的都是我所造的』,卻不能否認乃是論及每一個靈魂。然而每一個身體也是祂親自所造;但祂由繁衍而造成人的身體,這無人懷疑。這樣,論到靈魂,既然人所公認乃是祂所造,仍確實須追問祂從何而造它——究竟是由繁衍(如身體),還是藉吹入(如祂造首先的人)。他還加了第三個見證,因為經上寫着:『那在人裏面塑造人之靈的。』彷彿有人否認此事似的;但祂從何而塑造,這才是所問的。因為,除神之外,誰塑造人肉身的眼睛呢?而我認為,祂塑造它並非在人之外,乃是在人之內,然而,正如所確定的,乃是由繁衍。
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cum ergo et spiritum hominis in ipso fingat, quaerendum est, utrum noua insufflatione an tractum ex propagine. Nouimus etiam Machabeorum iuuenum matrem fecundiorem uirtutibus, quando filii passi sunt, quam fetibus, quando nati sunt, eos sic fuisse adhortatam, ut diceret: filii, nescio quomodo paruistis in uentrem meum. neque enim ego spiritum et animam donaui uobis nec singulis uobis uultus et membra formaui; sed deus, qui fecit mundum et omnia quae in es o sunt fecitque hominum genus et omnium inquirit actum, ipse uobis spiritum et animam reddet cum magna misericordia. nouimus haec quidem, sed huic quomodo suffragentur ad id quod asserit non uidemus.
Since therefore He fashions also the spirit of man within him, it must be asked whether by a new inbreathing or drawn from propagation. We know too that the mother of the Maccabean youths, more fruitful in virtues when her sons suffered than in offspring when they were born, thus exhorted them, saying: 'My sons, I know not how you appeared in my womb. For neither did I bestow on you spirit and soul, nor did I form for each of you the countenance and the members; but God, who made the world and all that is in it, and made the race of men and searches out the deed of all, He Himself will render to you spirit and soul again with great mercy.' These things indeed we know, but how they support this man in what he asserts we do not see.
既然如此,祂也在人裏面塑造人的靈,那麼就須追問:這究竟是藉新的吹入,還是從繁衍而牽引。我們也曉得,瑪加伯眾青年之母——她在諸子受難時比生育時更多結出美德的果子——如此勉勵他們說:『我兒,我不知你們怎樣在我腹中成形。並非我把靈與魂賜給你們,也非我為你們各人塑造容貌與肢體;乃是那造世界與其中萬物、又造人類、並鑒察眾人行為的神,祂親自要以大憐憫將靈與魂再賜還你們。』這些事我們固然曉得,但它們如何支持這人所主張的,我們卻看不出來。
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quis enim Christianorum neget deum donare hominibus animam et spiritum ? sed eodem modo existimo istum negare non posse deum donare hominibus aurem, linguam, manum, pedem omnesque corporis sensus et omnium formam naturamque membrorum. quomodo enim haec dei dona esse negaturus est, nisi se obliuiscatur esse Christianum ? sed sicut constat ex propagine ab illo haec fieri atque donari, ita quaerendum est etiam, spiritus et anima hominis unde ab illo efficiatur, a quo efficiente donatur, utrum ex parentibus an ex nihilo an — quod iste affirmat, sed omni modo cauendum est — ex aliqua flatus eius exsistente natura, non de nihilo creata, sed de ipso.
For what Christian would deny that God bestows on men soul and spirit? But in the same way I judge that this man cannot deny that God bestows on men ear, tongue, hand, foot, and all the senses of the body, and the form and nature of all the members. For how will he deny these to be gifts of God, unless he forget that he is a Christian? But just as it is agreed that these are made and bestowed by Him from propagation, so it must also be asked whence the spirit and soul of man is effected by Him, by whom, effecting it, it is bestowed — whether from the parents, or from nothing, or (what this man affirms, but which must by all means be guarded against) from some existing nature of His breath, not created out of nothing, but out of Himself.
因為,哪個基督徒會否認神將靈魂與靈賜給人呢?但同樣,我認為這人也不能否認神將耳、舌、手、腳並身體一切的感官,以及一切肢體的形狀與本性賜給人。因為,他若不忘記自己是基督徒,怎能否認這些乃是神的恩賜呢?但正如人所公認,這些是由繁衍而由祂造成並賜下的,照樣也須追問:人的靈與靈魂,是從何由那賜之者(即那造成並賜下之者)造成的——究竟是出於父母,還是出於無有,抑或(如這人所確認、卻必須極力提防的)出於祂氣息某種既存的本性,非由無有所造,乃出於祂自己。
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Cum igitur scripturarum testimonia, quae commemorat, nequaquam doceant id quod persuadere conatur quod enim ad hanc quaestionem attinet, omnino non exprimunt —, quid est quod dicit: animam ex flatu dei constanter asserimus, non ex traduce. quia ex deo datur ? quasi corpus ex alio detur quam ex illo, a quo creatur, ex quo omnia, per quem omnia, in quo omnia, quamuis non ex eius natura, sed ex eius opificio. neque ex nihilo, inquit, quia ex deo proficiscitur . hoc plane non adhuc quaerendum monemus utrum ita sit; sed prorsus uerum non esse quod dicit, id est quod anima nec ex traduce sit nec ex nihilo, hoc, inquam, uerum non esse sine dubitatione firmamus. unum est enim e duobus:
Since therefore the testimonies of the Scriptures which he cites by no means teach what he attempts to persuade — for as regards this question, they do not express it at all — what is it that he says: 'We steadfastly assert that the soul comes from the breath of God, not from the transmission (traduce), because it is given from God'? As though the body is given from any other source than from Him by whom it is created, from whom are all things, through whom are all things, in whom are all things — although not from His nature, but from His workmanship. 'Nor from nothing,' he says, 'because it proceeds from God.' This, plainly, we admonish is not yet to be inquired into, whether it be so; but that what he says is utterly untrue — namely, that the soul is neither from transmission nor from nothing — this, I say, without any doubt we affirm to be untrue. For it is one of two things:
既然他所引用的聖經見證絕不教導他所企圖勸人相信之事——因為就這問題而言,它們根本未曾表達——那麼他所說的又是什麼呢:『我們堅定地主張,靈魂出於神的氣息,而非出於傳衍(traduce),因為它是從神而賜』?彷彿身體是從別的源頭而賜、而非從那創造它的祂而賜似的——萬有本於祂、藉着祂、歸於祂——雖然並非出於祂的本性,乃是出於祂的工作。他說:『也非出於無有,因為它出於神。』我們警戒說,這一點是否如此,尚不當在此追問;但他所說的乃是全然不真——即靈魂既非出於傳衍、也非出於無有——這一點,我說,我們毫無疑問地確認為不真。因為,非此即彼,二者必居其一:
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si ex traduce non est, ex nihilo est, ne ita sit ex deo, ut naturae sit dei, quod omnino sacrilegum est credere. sed adhuc utrum non sit ex traduce, certa testimonia flagitamus aut quaerimus, non qualia iste posuit, quibus hoc quod quaerimus non ostenditur. Qui utinam in tanta profunditate quaestionis. quamdiu quid dicat ignorat, imitaretur Machabeorum matrem ! quae cum sciret de uiro se filios concepisse et a creatore omnium siue secundum corpus sine secundum animam et spiritum sibi creatos esse, ait tamen: nescio quomodo paruistis in uentrem meum. uellem iste diceret, quid ista nesciebat.
if it is not from transmission, it is from nothing — unless it be from God in such a way as to be of the nature of God, which it is altogether sacrilegious to believe. But as to whether it is not from transmission, we demand or seek certain testimonies, not such as this man has adduced, by which what we seek is not shown. Would that, in so profound a question — so long as he is ignorant of what he says — he would imitate the mother of the Maccabees! For she, though she knew that she had conceived her sons of her husband and that they had been created for her by the Creator of all, whether according to the body or according to the soul and spirit, yet said: 'I know not how you appeared in my womb.' I could wish this man would say what she did not know.
倘若它不是出於傳衍,便是出於無有——除非它是這樣出於神,以致屬乎神的本性,而這乃是全然褻瀆、不可信的。但至於它是否非出於傳衍,我們要求或尋求確鑿的見證,而非這人所引用的這類見證(憑這些見證,我們所尋求的並未得着顯明)。但願他在如此深奧的問題上——只要他還不知自己在說什麼——效法瑪加伯之母!因為她雖曉得自己是從丈夫懷了諸子,並曉得他們是由萬有的創造者為她所造(無論按身體,還是按靈魂與靈),卻仍說:『我不知你們怎樣在我腹中成形。』我倒願這人說出她所不知的是什麼。
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haec enim, quae dixi, utique sciebat, quomodo secundum corpus in eius uterum uenerint, quia de uiro eos se concepisse dubitare non poterat. confitebatur etiam, quia et hoc utique sciebat, quod deus illis animam et spiritum dederit, quod ipse illis uultus et membra formauerit. quid ergo nesciebat ? an forte quod nescimus et nos, utrum animam et spiritum, quem deus. illis sine dubio dedit, de parentibus traxerit an nouum sicut homini primo insufflauerit? sed sine hoc siue aliud aliquid de naturae humanae institutione nesciebat, nescire se dicebat, non quod nesciebat temere defendebat. nec tamen iste huic diceret. quod nobis dicere non erubuit: homo in honore positus non intellexit:
For these things which I have mentioned she certainly knew: how according to the body they came into her womb, since she could not doubt that she had conceived them of her husband. She confessed also — because this too she assuredly knew — that God gave them soul and spirit, that He Himself formed for them their countenances and members. What then did she not know? Perhaps that which we too do not know: whether the soul and spirit, which God without doubt gave them, He drew from the parents, or breathed in a new one, as into the first man? But whether this, or something else concerning the constitution of human nature, she did not know, she said that she did not know; she did not rashly defend what she did not know. Yet this man would not say to her what he was not ashamed to say to us: 'Man, being placed in honor, did not understand;
因為我所提及的這些事,她確實曉得:他們如何按身體進入她的腹中,因她不能懷疑自己是從丈夫懷了他們。她也承認——因為這事她也確實曉得——神將靈魂與靈賜給了他們,是祂親自為他們塑造了容貌與肢體。那麼她所不知的是什麼呢?或許正是我們也不知的:神無疑賜給他們的靈魂與靈,究竟是祂從父母牽引而來,還是如向首先的人那樣吹入一個新的?但無論是這一點,還是關乎人性構造的別的什麼,她所不知的,她便說自己不知;她並不輕率地辯護她所不知之事。然而這人卻不會對她說出他毫不羞愧地對我們所說的話:『人在尊貴中不能長久,
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comparatus est pecoribus insensatis e t s i mil is f actus est e i s . ecce ista mulier dixit de filiis suis: neseio quomodo paruistis in uentrem meum, nec tamen comparatur pecoribus insensatis. nescio, dixit; et quasi quaererent ab ea cur nesciret adiunxit: neque enim ego spiritum et animam donaui uobis ille ergo qui donauit scit, unde fecerit quod donauit, utrum ex propagine adtraxerit an nouum insufflauerit, \'quod ego\', inquit, \'nescio nec singulis uobis uultus et membra formaui; ille scit qui formauit, utrum simul cum anima formauerit an uero iam formatis animam dederit. quo ergo modo, utrum illo an isto, in eius uentrem uenerint filii, nesciebat;
he is compared to the senseless beasts and has been made like to them.' Behold, this woman said of her sons: 'I know not how you appeared in my womb,' and yet she is not compared to the senseless beasts. 'I know not,' she said; and as though they were asking her why she did not know, she added: 'For neither did I bestow spirit and soul upon you.' He therefore who bestowed it knows whence He made what He bestowed — whether He drew it from propagation or breathed in a new one — 'which I,' she says, 'know not; nor did I form for each of you the countenance and members.' He knows who formed them, whether He formed them together with the soul, or gave the soul to them when already formed. In what manner, then — whether in this way or that — her sons came into her womb, she did not know;
就與無知的畜類相比,並且成了與牠們相似的。』看哪,這婦人論到她的兒子說:『我不知你們怎樣在我腹中成形』,然而她並未被比作無知的畜類。她說:『我不知』;並彷彿有人問她何以不知,她便補充說:『因為並非我把靈與魂賜給你們。』那麼,那賜下之者曉得祂從何造成祂所賜的——究竟是從繁衍牽引,還是吹入新的——她說:『這我不知;也非我為你們各人塑造容貌與肢體。』那塑造之者曉得,究竟是祂連同靈魂一同塑造,還是在已塑造之後才將靈魂賜下。因此,她的兒子究竟是以何方式——是這樣還是那樣——進入她的腹中,她並不曉得;
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et illud tamen sciebat totum quod dedit redditurum esse qui dedit. sed eligat iste in naturae humanae tam profundo abditoque secreto quid mulier ista nescierit; tantum non iudicet mentientem nec pecoribus insensatis comparet nescientem. quicquid erat quod illa nesciebat, profecto ad naturam hominis pertinebat; quod tamen sine culpa homo nesciebat. quapropter dico etiam ego de anima mea: nescio, quomodo uenerit in corpus meum — neque enim ego illam mihi donaui —; scit ille qui donauit, utrum illam de patre meo traxerit an sicut homini primo nouam creauerit. sciam etiam ego, si ipse docuerit, quandocumque uoluerit; nunc autem nescio nec me pudet ut istum fateri nescire quod nescio.
and yet she knew this, that all which He gave, He who gave it would render back. But let this man choose, in so deep and hidden a secret of human nature, what this woman did not know; only let him not judge her to be lying, nor compare her, though ignorant, to the senseless beasts. Whatever it was that she did not know, it assuredly pertained to the nature of man — which nevertheless a man might not know without fault. Wherefore I too say of my own soul: I know not how it came into my body — for I did not bestow it on myself; He knows who bestowed it, whether He drew it from my father or created a new one, as for the first man. I too shall know, if He Himself teach me, whenever He wills; but now I know not, nor am I, like this man, ashamed to confess that I do not know what I do not know.
然而她卻曉得這一點:凡祂所賜的,那賜之者必要償還。但就讓這人在人性如此深奧隱祕的祕密中,自去揀選這婦人所不知的是什麼;只是不要判她說謊,也不要把她這無知者比作無知的畜類。無論她所不知的是什麼,它確實關乎人的本性——然而人不知這事,卻可以無過。因此,我也論到自己的靈魂說:我不知它怎樣進入我的身體——因為並非我把它賜給自己;那賜之者曉得,究竟是祂從我父親牽引而來,還是如為首先的人那樣造了一個新的。倘若祂親自教導我,無論何時祂願意,我也必曉得;但如今我不知,也不像這人那樣,羞於承認我不知我所不知之事。
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Disce, inquit, ecce apostolus docet . discam plane, si apostolus docet — non enim nisi deus per apostolum docet —, sed quid est tandem quod docet apostolus? ecce, inquit, cum Atheniensibus loqueretur, hoc constanter exposuit dicens: cum ipse det omnibus uitam et spiritum . quis enim hoc negat? sed intellege, inquit, quod ait apostolus. \'det\', inquit, non dedit ad infinitum et iuge tempus reuocans, non de praeterito et perfecto pronuntians. et quod sine cessatione dat. semper dat, sicut semper est ipse qui dat . uerba eius posui, sicut in eorum quos misisti secundo libro eius inueni. ubi primum uide quo progressus fuerit, dum nititur affirmare quod nescit.
'Learn,' he says; 'behold, the Apostle teaches.' I will learn plainly, if the Apostle teaches — for none but God teaches through the Apostle — but what then is it that the Apostle teaches? 'Behold,' he says, 'when he spoke with the Athenians, he set this forth steadfastly, saying: since He Himself gives to all life and spirit.' For who denies this? 'But understand,' he says, 'what the Apostle says. He says gives, not gave, recalling it to infinite and perpetual time, not pronouncing of the past and completed. And what He gives without ceasing, He always gives, just as He who gives always is.' I have set down his words, as I found them in the second book of his which you sent. Here first see how far he has advanced, while he strives to affirm what he does not know.
他說:『你要學習罷;看哪,使徒教導。』倘若使徒教導,我自當明白地學習——因為惟有神藉使徒教導——但使徒所教導的究竟是什麼呢?他說:『看哪,使徒與雅典人講論時,堅定地闡明此事,說:既然祂親自將生命與靈賜給萬人。』因為誰否認這事呢?他說:『但你要明白使徒所說的。他說賜(現在式),而非賜過(過去式),把它追溯到無限而恆久的時間,並非就已過並完成之事而宣告。凡祂不住地賜的,祂就常常賜,正如那賜之者常存。』我已錄下他的話,正如我在你所送來他那書卷第二冊中所見的。在此請先看他推進到何等地步,竟力圖確認他所不知之事。
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ausus est enim dicere deum non nunc solum atque in isto tantummodo saeculo, sed per infinitum tempus sine cessatione atque omnino semper animas nascentibus dare. semper . inquit, dat, sicut semper est ipse qui dat . quid apostolus dixerit, quia satis apertum est, me intellegere absit ut negem; quod autem iste dicit, debet etiam ipse intellegere contra fidem esse christianam atque ulterius cauere ne dicat. cum enim mortui resurrexerint, iam nemo nascetur; atque ideo tunc non dabit nascentibus animas, sed eas quas dat in isto saeculo cum corporibus iudicabit. non ergo semper dat, quamuis semper ipse sit qui nunc dat.
For he has dared to say that God gives souls to those being born, not only now and in this present age alone, but throughout infinite time, without ceasing and altogether always. 'He always gives,' he says, 'just as He who gives always is.' What the Apostle said — since it is plain enough — far be it from me to deny that I understand; but what this man says, he himself ought to understand to be against the Christian faith, and further to beware lest he say it. For when the dead shall have risen, no one will any longer be born; and therefore then He will not give souls to those being born, but will judge, together with their bodies, those souls which He gives in this present age. He does not therefore always give, although He Himself who now gives always is.
因為他竟膽敢說,神不但如今、也不但在這現今的世代,乃是在無限的時間中、不住地、並且完全常常地,將靈魂賜給正在出生的人。他說:『祂常常賜,正如那賜之者常存。』使徒所說的——既已相當明白——我斷不否認自己明白;但這人所說的,他自己就當明白乃是違背基督信仰的,並當進一步提防,免得他說出這話。因為,當死人復活時,就不再有人出生;因此那時祂便不再將靈魂賜給正在出生的人,乃要連同身體審判祂在這現今世代所賜的那些靈魂。所以祂並非常常賜,雖然那如今賜下的祂自己常存。
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nec tamen quoniam beatus apostolus non dixit \'dedit\', sed \'det\', inde conficitur quod uult isto conficere non eum ex propagine animas dare. ipse quippe dat, etiam si de propagine dat, quia et corporis membra et corporis sensus et corporis formam et corporis omnino substantiam ipse hominibus dat, quamuis ex propagine det. neque enim quia dominus ait: si faenum agri, quod hodie est et cras in clibanum mittitur, deus sic uestit, nec ait \'uestiuit\', sicut primum quando instituit, sed ait \'uestit\', quod et nunc facit, ideo negabimus lilia de origine sui generis procreari.
Nor yet, because the blessed Apostle said not 'gave' but 'gives,' is that thereby brought about which he wishes to establish by this — that God does not give souls from propagation. For He Himself gives, even if He gives from propagation, since He Himself gives to men both the members of the body and the senses of the body and the form of the body and altogether the substance of the body, although He gives it from propagation. For neither, because the Lord says: 'If God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is and tomorrow is cast into the oven,' and He says not 'clothed,' as when He first established it, but says 'clothes,' which He does even now — shall we therefore deny that the lilies are produced from the origin of their own kind.
再者,蒙福的使徒既不說『賜過』而說『賜』,也不因此就成就他想藉此確立之事——即神並非由繁衍賜下靈魂。因為祂親自賜下,縱使祂是由繁衍而賜,因為身體的肢體、身體的感官、身體的形狀、以及身體的一切質料,都是祂親自賜給人的,雖然祂是由繁衍而賜。因為,主既說:『野地裏的草今天還在、明天就丟在爐裏,神還給它這樣的妝飾』,祂不說『妝飾過』(如祂起初設立時),乃說『妝飾』(現在式,即祂如今仍在做的),我們豈能因此就否認百合花是從其本類的起源而生的呢。
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quid si ergo sic etiam anima et spiri\';us hominis et a deo datur, quamdiu datur, et tamen ex propagine sui generis datur? quod ego nec defendo nec refello. sed si defendendum est uel refellendum, perspicuis, non ambiguis testimoniis id agendum esse commoneo. nec propterea sum pecoiibus insensatis comparandus, quia hoc me nondum scire pronuntio, sed potius cautis hominibus, quia non audeo docere quod nescio.
What then if the soul and spirit of man too is thus given by God, for as long as it is given, and yet is given from the propagation of its own kind? This I neither defend nor refute. But if it is to be defended or refuted, I admonish that it must be done by clear, not ambiguous, testimonies. Nor for that reason am I to be compared to the senseless beasts, because I declare that I do not yet know this, but rather to cautious men, because I do not dare to teach what I do not know.
那麼,倘若人的靈魂與靈也是這樣由神所賜(在它被賜的整段時間中),卻仍是由其本類的繁衍而賜,那又如何呢?這一點,我既不辯護,也不駁斥。但倘若當辯護或駁斥,我警戒說:這必須憑清楚而非含糊的見證來進行。我也不當因宣稱自己尚不知這事而被比作無知的畜類,反倒當被比作謹慎的人,因為我不敢教導我所不知之事。
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istum autem non ego uicissim quasi rependens maledictum pro maledicto pecoribus comparo, sed tamquam filium moneo, ut quod nescit se nescire fateatur neque id quod nondum didicit docere moliatur, ne comparetur non pecoribus, sed illis hominibus, quos dicit apostolus uolentes esse legis doctores non intellegentes? neque quae quuntur neque de quibus affirmant. Nam unde est, quod ita scripturas. de quibus loquitur, non curat aduertere, ut cum legerit homines esse ex deo. non eos etiam secundum corpus, sed \'tantum secundum animam et spiritum ex deo esse\' contendat? quod enim ait apostolus: ex ipso sumus, non uult iste ad corpus, sed tantum ad animam et spLitum esse referendum.
But I, in turn, do not compare this man to the beasts as though repaying curse for curse; rather I admonish him as a son, that he may confess that he does not know what he does not know, and may not attempt to teach what he has not yet learned, lest he be compared not to beasts, but to those men whom the Apostle calls 'wishing to be teachers of the law, understanding neither the things they say nor those concerning which they make assertions.' For whence is it that he thus takes no care to attend to the Scriptures of which he speaks, so that, when he has read that men are 'from God,' he contends that they are 'from God' not even according to the body, but only according to soul and spirit? For what the Apostle says, 'we are from Him,' this man wishes to be referred not to the body, but only to the soul and spirit.
但我卻不反過來把這人比作畜類、彷彿以咒罵報咒罵;我倒像對兒子那樣勸戒他,好使他承認自己不知所不知之事,也不企圖教導他尚未學到之事,免得他被比作的並非畜類,乃是使徒所稱『想要作律法教師、卻不明白自己所講說的,也不明白所論定的』那等人。因為,他何以竟這樣不留心去注意他所談論的聖經,以致當他讀到人『出於神』時,便堅稱人『出於神』甚至不是按身體,乃惟獨按靈魂與靈?因為使徒所說的『我們是出於祂』,這人要把它歸屬的並非身體,乃惟獨靈魂與靈。
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si ergo ex deo non sunt corpora, falsum est quod scriptum est: ex quo omnia, per quem omnia, in quo omnia. deinde ubi dicit idem apostolus: sicut enim mulie - ex uiro ita et uir per mulierem, exponat nobis iste quam propaginem significare noluerit, animae an corporis an utriusque; sed non uult \'esse animas ex propagine\': restat ergo, ut secundum ipsum atque omnes, qui animarum propaginem destruunt. corpus tantum masculinum et femininum significarit apostolus dicens: sicut enim mulier ex uiro ita et uir per mu lierem. quia mulier ex uiro facta est, ut etiam uir per mulierem postea nasceretur.
If therefore bodies are not from God, then false is that which is written: 'from whom are all things, through whom are all things, in whom are all things.' Then, where the same Apostle says: 'For as the woman is from the man, so also the man is through the woman,' let this man expound to us which propagation he meant to signify — that of the soul, or of the body, or of both. But he does not wish 'souls to be from propagation'; it remains, therefore, that according to himself and all who destroy the propagation of souls, the Apostle signified only the male and female body when he said: 'For as the woman is from the man, so also the man is through the woman' — because the woman was made from the man, so that the man too might afterward be born through the woman.
因此,倘若身體不是出於神,那麼經上所寫的便是虛謊:『萬有本於祂、藉着祂、歸於祂。』其次,同一位使徒既說:『因為女人原是由男人而出,照樣男人也是藉着女人而生』,就讓這人向我們解明:他所要指的是哪一種繁衍——靈魂的、身體的,還是二者的?但他不願『靈魂出於繁衍』:那麼所剩下的便是,按他自己並一切否認靈魂繁衍之人的說法,使徒說『因為女人由男人而出,照樣男人也藉着女人而生』時,所指的僅是男女的身體——因為女人是由男人所造,以致男人後來也藉着女人而生。
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si ergo haec apostolus dicens non etiam animas et spiritus, sed tantum corpora utriusque sexus uolebat intellegi, cur continuo subiunxit: omnia autem ex deo. nisi quia et corpora ex deo? ita quippe ait: sicut enim mulier ex uiro ita et uir per mulierem. omnia autem ex deo. eligat ergo iste unde sit dictum. si do corporibus. profecto et corpora ex deo sunt. quid est ergo. quod ubicumque iste in scripturis legit \'ex deo\', quando de hominibus agitur, non et corpora, sed tantum animas et spiritus uult intellegi? si uero quod dictum est: omnia autem ex deo, et de corpore utriusque sexus et de anima ac spiritu dictum est, ergo secundum omnia est mulier ex niro;
If therefore the Apostle, in saying these things, meant to be understood not also souls and spirits, but only the bodies of each sex, why did he immediately add: 'but all things are from God' — unless because the bodies too are from God? For thus he says: 'For as the woman is from the man, so also the man is through the woman. But all things are from God.' Let this man therefore choose of what it was said. If of bodies, then assuredly bodies too are from God. What is it then, that wherever this man reads 'from God' in the Scriptures, when men are being treated of, he wishes not also bodies, but only souls and spirits, to be understood? But if what was said, 'but all things are from God,' was said both of the body of each sex and of the soul and spirit, then according to all things the woman is from the man;
因此,倘若使徒說這些話時,所要人理解的並非也包括靈魂與靈,乃惟獨兩性的身體,那他為何立刻補上:『但萬有都是出於神』——若非因為身體也是出於神?因為他這樣說:『因為女人由男人而出,照樣男人也藉着女人而生。但萬有都是出於神。』那麼就讓這人揀選:這話是就何而說的。若是就身體而說,那麼身體確實也是出於神。那麼,這人在聖經中無論何處讀到『出於神』——當所論的是人時——竟不願身體、乃惟願靈魂與靈被理解,這是怎麼一回事呢?但倘若所說的『萬有都是出於神』既是就兩性的身體、也是就靈魂與靈而說,那麼女人按萬有都是由男人而出;
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mulier enim ex niro, uir per mulierem, omnia ex deo. quae \'omnia\' nisi de quibus loquebatur, id est et ille uir, ex quo mulier, et illa mulier, quae ex uiro, et ille uir. qui per mulierem ? neque enim ille uir per mulierem, ex quo uiro mulier. sed uir. qui natus est postea ex uiro per mulierem. quemadmodum hodieque nascuntur. ac per hoc si, cum ista diceret apostolus, de corporibus loquebatur, procul dubio corpora utriusque sexus ex deo. porro si non uult ex deo esse hominum nisi animas et spiritus, profecto etiam secundum animam et spiritum mulier ex uiro et nihil iam relinquetur eis qui contra animarum propaginem disputant.
for the woman is from the man, the man through the woman, all things from God. Which 'all things,' save those of which he was speaking — that is, both that man from whom the woman is, and that woman who is from the man, and that man who is through the woman? For not that man is through the woman, from whom man the woman is; but the man who is afterward born from man through woman, just as they are born even today. And thus, if, when the Apostle said these things, he was speaking of bodies, then without doubt the bodies of each sex are from God. Furthermore, if he does not wish men's souls and spirits alone to be from God, then assuredly according to soul and spirit too the woman is from the man, and nothing will now be left to those who dispute against the propagation of souls.
因為女人由男人而出,男人藉着女人而生,萬有都是出於神。這『萬有』若非指他所談論的那些,還能是什麼呢——即那女人由之而出的男人,那由男人而出的女人,以及那藉着女人而生的男人?因為,那女人由之而出的男人,並非藉着女人而生的男人;乃是那後來由男人藉着女人而生的男人,正如今日人仍這樣出生。這樣,倘若使徒說這些話時所談論的乃是身體,那麼兩性的身體無疑都是出於神。再者,倘若他不願人的靈魂與靈是惟獨出於神,那麼按靈魂與靈,女人也確實是由男人而出,如此,那些駁斥靈魂繁衍之人便再無所剩了。
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si autem ita diuidit, ut dicat mulierem ex uiro esse secundum corpus, ex deo autem secundum animam et spiritum, quomodo erit uerum quod ait apostolus: omnia autem ex deo, si mulieris corpus ita est ex uiro. ut non sit ex deo? quapropter ut apostolus potius uerum loquatur, quam iste apostolo praeferatur, mulier ex uiro est siue secundum solum corpus siue secundum totum.
But if he divides the matter in such a way as to say that the woman is from the man as regards the body, yet from God as regards the soul and spirit, how will that be true which the Apostle says, 'But all things are from God' (1 Cor. 11:12), if the woman's body is so from the man that it is not from God? Therefore, that the Apostle may rather speak the truth than that this man be preferred to the Apostle, the woman is from the man, whether according to the body alone or according to the whole.
但他若如此區分,說女人就身體而言是出於男人,就靈魂與心靈而言卻是出於神,那麼使徒所說的「萬有都是出於神」(林前十一12)又怎能為真呢?倘若女人的身體是這樣出於男人,以致不是出於神。所以,為叫使徒說的乃是真理,而非叫此人凌駕於使徒之上,女人乃是出於男人——無論是單就身體,還是就其全體而言。
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quo constat humana natura — nihil enim horum tamquam certum affirmamus, sed quid horum uerum sit adhuc quaerimus — et uir per mulierem, siue ex patre tota hominis natura ducatur, quae per mulierem nascitur, siue sola caro, unde adhuc quaestio est, omnia tamen ex deo, unde nulla quaestio est, id est et corpus et anima et spiritus et uiri et mulieris. etsi enim non ex deo nata uel tracta sunt uel manarunt, ita ut eius naturae sint, tamen ex deo sunt. a quo enim creata, condita, facta sunt, ab illo habent ut sint. Sed dicendo, inquit, apostolus: et ipse det omnibus uitam et spiritum, deinde addendo:
Of which human nature consists—for we affirm none of these things as certain, but are still inquiring which of them is true—and man exists through woman, whether the whole nature of man is drawn from the father, which is born through the woman, or the flesh alone, whereon there is still a question; yet all things are from God, whereon there is no question, that is, both body and soul and spirit, both of the man and of the woman. For even if they are not born from God, nor drawn from Him, nor have flowed from Him in such a way as to be of His nature, nevertheless they are from God. For by whom they were created, established, and made, from Him they have their being. But since the Apostle, he says, in saying, 'And He Himself gives to all life and breath' (Acts 17:25), then adds:
人性由此構成——因為我們並不把這些當作確定的來肯定,而仍在探究其中哪一項為真——並且人是藉女人而有的,無論人的全部本性(那藉女人而生者)是出於父,還是唯有肉體出於父(此點仍有疑問);然而萬有都是出於神(此點毫無疑問),也就是身體、靈魂與心靈,無論男人的還是女人的都是如此。因為即便它們不是由神所生、所引出、所流出,以致成為與祂同質,它們仍是出於神。因為凡造成、設立、製作它們的那一位,它們就從祂得其存在。但他說,使徒既說「祂親自將生命、氣息賜給眾人」(徒十七25),隨後又補充說:
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fecitque ex uno sanguine omne genus hominum, animam et spiritum originaliter retulit ad auctorem, corpus ad traducem . immo uero qui non uult temere animarum negare propaginem, antequam liquido clareat utrum ita an non ita sit, habet quod in istis uerbis apostoli intellegat \'ex uno\' cum \'sanguine\' dixisse \'ex uno homine\' a parte totum significante locutionis modo. si enim ipsi licet intellegere a parte totum quod scriptum est: et f actus est homo in animam uiuam, ut illic intellegatur et spiritus, de quo scriptura ibi tacuit, cur aliis non liceat sic accipere quod dictum est:
'And He made of one blood every race of men' (Acts 17:26), he referred the soul and spirit in their origin to the Author, but the body to propagation. Nay rather, he who is unwilling rashly to deny the propagation of souls, before it becomes clearly evident whether it be so or not, has here something whereby he may understand that in these words of the Apostle 'of one' with 'blood' means 'of one man,' by that mode of speech in which the part signifies the whole. For if it is permitted to him to understand the whole from a part in what is written, 'And man was made into a living soul' (Gen. 2:7), so that there the spirit also is understood, concerning which Scripture there kept silence, why is it not permitted to others to understand thus what is said:
「祂又從一本造出萬族的人」(徒十七26),這話就其根源將靈魂與心靈歸於那創造者,卻將身體歸於繁衍。不但如此,凡不願在尚未明白確知靈魂繁衍究竟是否如此之先,就輕率否認靈魂繁衍之說的人,在使徒這些話裡便有可據以理解之處:這「一本」與「血」相連時,是指「一個人」,乃是以部分指全體的說法。因為,倘若他可以在所寫的「人就成了有靈的活人」(創二7)中以部分理解全體,以致那裡連心靈也包含在內(聖經在該處對此保持緘默),那麼為何別人不可如此理解所說的:
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ex uno sanguine, ut illic et anima et spiritus possit intellegi, quoniam homo significatus nomine sanguinis non solo constat ex corpore, uerum etiam ex anima et spiritu? sicut enim qui propaginem defendit animarum non hinc istum debet opprimere, quia de primo homine scriptum est: in quo omnes peccauerunt — non enim dictum est: \'in quo omnium caro peccauit\', sed \'omnes\' dictum est, id est omnes homines, cum homo non sola sit caro —. sicut ergo hinc iste non debet opprimi, quia forte ita dictum est \'omnes homines\', ut secundum solam carnem intellegerentur, sic iste non hinc debet premere defensores propaginis animarum, quia dictum est:
'Of one blood' (Acts 17:26)—so that there both soul and spirit may be understood, since the man signified by the name of blood does not consist of body alone, but also of soul and spirit? For just as he who defends the propagation of souls ought not to be overwhelmed from this, because it is written of the first man, 'In whom all have sinned' (Rom. 5:12)—for it was not said, 'in whom the flesh of all sinned,' but 'all' was said, that is, all men, since a man is not flesh alone—; therefore just as this man ought not to be overwhelmed from this, because perhaps 'all men' was so said that they should be understood according to the flesh alone, so this man ought not to press the defenders of the propagation of souls from this, because it is said:
「從一本血脈」(徒十七26)——以致那裡靈魂與心靈都可被理解,因為以血之名所指的人,並非只由身體構成,也由靈魂與心靈構成?因為,正如維護靈魂繁衍之說的人不當因此被駁倒——因為論到頭一個人記著說「眾人都在他裡面犯了罪」(羅五12);經上並非說「眾人的肉體都犯了罪」,乃是說「眾人」,即所有的人,因為人並非只是肉體——;所以,正如此人不當因此被駁倒(因為或許說「所有的人」是要單就肉體來理解),照樣此人也不當以此逼迫維護靈魂繁衍之說者,因為經上說:
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omne genus hominum ex uno sanguine, tamquam propterea sola caro pertineat ad propaginem. si enim hoc est uerum, quod isti asserunt, ut non sit anima ex anima, sed caro ex carne sit tantum, ita dictum est e x uno sanguine, ut non totus homo significaretur a parte, sed tantum unius hominis caro; illud nero quod dictum est: in quo omnes peccauerunt, sola omnium hominum caro intellegenda est, quae inde transfusa est, a toto partem significante scriptura.
'Every race of men of one blood' (Acts 17:26), as though on that account the flesh alone pertained to propagation. For if that which these men assert is true, namely that the soul is not from the soul, but only the flesh is from the flesh, then 'of one blood' was said in such a way that not the whole man is signified from a part, but only the flesh of one man; while that which was said, 'in whom all have sinned' (Rom. 5:12), is to be understood as the flesh alone of all men, which was thence transfused, Scripture signifying the part from the whole.
「從一本血脈造出萬族的人」(徒十七26),彷彿因此唯有肉體才屬於繁衍。因為,倘若這些人所主張的為真,即靈魂並非出於靈魂,唯有肉體出於肉體,那麼「從一本血脈」這話便是這樣說的:並非以部分指全人,乃是單指一個人的肉體;而所說的「眾人都在他裡面犯了罪」(羅五12),就當理解為所有人的肉體,就是從那裡傳流而來的,聖經是以全體指部分。
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si autem illud est uerum, quod totus homo ex toto homine propagatur, id est corpus, anima et spiritus, ibi proprie dictum est \'in quo omnes homines peccauerunt\', hic autem tropice \'ex uno sanguine\' totum significatur a parte, id est totus homo. qui ex anima constat et carne, uel potius, ut iste amat loqui, ex anima et spiritu et carne. nam et ex parte totum et ex toto partem diuina eloquia significare consuerunt. ex parte enim totum significatum est, ubi legitur: ad te omnis caro ueniet, quia ex carne intellegitur totus homo; ex toto autem pars, cum dicitur Christus sepultus, cum sola eius caro sepulta sit.
But if that is true, namely that the whole man is propagated from the whole man, that is, body, soul, and spirit, then there it was said in a proper sense, 'in whom all men have sinned,' but here in a figurative sense, 'of one blood,' the whole is signified from a part, that is, the whole man, who consists of soul and flesh, or rather, as this man loves to speak, of soul and spirit and flesh. For the divine words are accustomed to signify both the whole from a part and the part from the whole. For the whole is signified from a part where it is read, 'To Thee shall all flesh come' (Ps. 65:2), because by the flesh the whole man is understood; but the part from the whole, when Christ is said to be buried, though His flesh alone was buried.
但若那為真,即全人是由全人所繁衍,也就是身體、靈魂與心靈,那麼在那裡「眾人都在他裡面犯了罪」乃是照本義說的,而在這裡「從一本血脈」則是以喻義說的,是以部分指全體,即那由靈魂與肉體構成的全人,或如此人所愛說的,由靈魂、心靈與肉體構成的全人。因為神聖的話語慣於既以部分指全體,又以全體指部分。以部分指全體,如經上所讀的「凡有血氣的都要來就你」(詩六十五2),因為藉「血氣(肉體)」乃指全人;而以全體指部分,如說基督被埋葬,雖然唯有祂的肉體被埋葬。
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iam Llud quod in hoc apostoli testimonio positum est, quia ipse dat omnibus uitam et spiritum, secundum superiorem disputationem puto quod neminem moueat; ipse enim dat. sed adhuc quaerimus unde det, utrum ex noua insufflationc an ex propagine. ipse quippe dare etiam carnis substantiam rectissime dicitur, quam tamen dare ex propagine non negatur. Nunc uideamus illud de Genesi testimonium, ubi facta mulier de latere uiri adducta est ad eum et dixit: hoc nunc os ex ossibus meis is et caro de carne m ea. hoc quippe iste putat, \'quod dicere debuerit Adam: "anima ex anima mea" uel: "spiritus de spiritu meo", si etiam hoc de illo tractum esset\'.
Now as for that which is set down in this testimony of the Apostle, that 'He Himself gives to all life and breath' (Acts 17:25), according to the preceding discussion I think that it moves no one; for He Himself does give. But we are still inquiring whence He gives it, whether by a new inbreathing or by propagation. For He is most rightly said to give even the substance of the flesh, which nevertheless is not denied to be given by propagation. Now let us consider that testimony from Genesis, where the woman, having been made from the man's side, was brought to him, and he said: 'This now is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh' (Gen. 2:23). For this man thinks 'that Adam ought to have said, "soul of my soul" or "spirit of my spirit," if this too had been drawn from him.'
至於使徒這見證中所載的「祂親自將生命、氣息賜給眾人」(徒十七25),按前面的討論,我想這不會使任何人困惑;因為祂確實親自賜下。但我們仍在探究祂是從何處賜下的,是藉新的吹氣,還是藉繁衍。因為說祂連肉體的實質也賜下,乃是最正確的,然而這實質藉繁衍而賜下,也未被否認。如今讓我們來看《創世記》那段見證,那裡女人是由男人的肋旁造成,被領到他面前,他就說:「這是我骨中的骨,肉中的肉」(創二23)。因為此人認為「亞當本該說『我魂中的魂』或『我靈中的靈』,倘若這些也是從他取出的話」。
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sed illi qui propaginem asserunt animarum, hinc se putant inuictius suam munire sententiam, quia, cum scriptum sit detraxisse deum costam de latere uiri eamque aedificasse in mulierem, non est additum, quod in eius faciem sufflauerit flatum uitae; ideo, inquiunt, quia iam de uiro fuerat animata. nam si non fuisset, nequaquam nos, inquiunt, sancta scriptura huius rei cognitione fraudasset. ad illud uero quod ait Adam: hoc nunc os ex ossibus meis et caro de carne mea nec ait: \'spiritus\' uel \'anima de spiritu meo\' uel \'de anima mea\', sic ab cis responderi potest.
But those who assert the propagation of souls think that from this they more invincibly fortify their opinion, because, although it is written that God took a rib from the man's side and built it into a woman, it was not added that He breathed into her face the breath of life; therefore, they say, because she had already been given a soul from the man. For if she had not, they say, Holy Scripture would by no means have defrauded us of the knowledge of this matter. But to that which Adam says, 'This now is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh,' nor says 'spirit of my spirit' or 'soul of my soul,' it can be answered by them thus.
但那些主張靈魂繁衍之說的人卻認為,他們由此更能無可辯駁地鞏固自己的見解,因為經上雖記著神從男人肋旁取出一根肋骨,把它建造成一個女人,卻沒有加上說祂向她臉上吹了生命之氣;他們說,這正是因為她已從男人那裡得了靈魂。他們說,因為她若沒有,聖經斷不會使我們喪失對此事的認識。至於亞當所說的「這是我骨中的骨,肉中的肉」,而沒有說「我靈中的靈」或「我魂中的魂」,他們可以這樣回答。
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quemadmodum superius demonstratum est, ut a parte totum intellegatur hoc dictum \'os et caro mea\', sed quae animata fuerint detracta, non mortua. neque enim hoc omnipotentem facere potuisse ideo negandum est, quia nullus hominum potest aliquid cum anima de humana carne praecidere. nam quod Adam secutus adiunxit: haec uocabitur mulier, quia d e u i r o s u o s u m p t a c s t, cur non ait potius, unde opinio confirmaretur istorum: \'quoniam de uiro suo caro eius sumpta est\'? hic itaque illi qui contra sentiunt possunt diccre, quia non scriptum est carnem mulieris, sed mulierem de uiro suo sumptam. totam debere accipi cum anima et spiritu.
As was shown above, so that this saying, 'my bone and flesh,' may be understood as the whole from a part, but as things which were taken away already animated, not dead. For it is not to be denied that the Omnipotent could do this, merely because no man is able to cut off anything together with a soul from human flesh. Now as to what Adam went on to add, 'She shall be called woman, because she was taken out of her man' (Gen. 2:23), why did he not rather say, whereby the opinion of these men might be confirmed, 'because her flesh was taken out of her man'? And so here those who think otherwise can say that it is not written that the flesh of the woman, but the woman, was taken out of her man; and she must be understood entirely, with soul and spirit.
如上文所示,好叫「我的骨與肉」這話可被理解為以部分指全體,但這被取出之物乃是有生命的,並非死的。因為並不能因為沒有一個人能連同靈魂從人的肉體上割下什麼,就否認全能者能行此事。至於亞當接著補充的「她要稱為女人,因為她是從她男人身上取出來的」(創二23),他為何不寧可說(好使這些人的見解得以確立)「因為她的肉體是從她男人身上取出的」?因此,在這裡那些持相反意見的人可以說:經上並非寫女人的肉體,乃是寫女人,是從她男人身上取出的;她當被全然理解,連同靈魂與心靈在內。
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nam etsi anima sexu caret, non tamen quando appellantur mulieres excepta anima eas necesse est intellegi. alioquin non ita se ammonerentur ornare: non in tortis crinibus aut auro uel margaritis aut ueste pretiosa, sed quod decet, inquit, mulieres promittentes pietatem per bonam conuersationem. utique pietas intus est in anima ucl in spiritu, et tamen mulieres appellatae sunt, etiam ut se intus ornarent, ubi nullus est sexus. Cum itaque isti sic inter se alternante sermone certauerint, ego inter cos sic iudieo, ut, ne incognitis fidant et temere audeant affirmare quod nesciunt, utrosque commoneam. si enim scriptum esset :
For even though the soul lacks sex, yet when women are named, they are not necessarily to be understood with the soul excepted. Otherwise they would not be admonished to adorn themselves thus: 'not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly apparel, but with what befits women professing godliness, through good conduct' (1 Tim. 2:9-10). Surely godliness is within, in the soul or in the spirit, and yet they were called women, even so that they should adorn themselves within, where there is no sex. Since therefore these men have thus contended among themselves with alternating discourse, I so judge between them as to admonish both parties, lest they trust in things unknown and rashly dare to affirm what they do not know. For if it were written:
因為,即便靈魂沒有性別,然而當稱人為女人時,也不必然要把她們理解為排除了靈魂。否則就不會如此勸勉她們修飾自己:「不以編髮、黃金、珍珠和貴重的衣裳為妝飾,只以善行為妝飾,這才與自稱是敬虔的婦女相宜」(提前二9-10)。敬虔顯然是在裡面,在靈魂或心靈中的,然而她們仍被稱為女人,且是要她們在裡面修飾自己,那裡是沒有性別的。因此,既然這些人這樣彼此往復辯論,我在他們中間如此判斷:要勸戒雙方,免得他們倚仗未知之事,輕率地擅自肯定自己所不知道的。因為,倘若經上寫著:
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